On Feb. 14, ARMTV, Armenia’s public television company, held the country’s national final to select the winner(s) that will represent Armenia at the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest in Oslo, Norway from May 25-29. The event took place in the National Opera Theatre in Yerevan and was broadcast live. Nine contestants vied for the position. The winner was determined by a pan
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her last name is Reshetnikova that is it, Valeriya Reshetnikova, it is not Tsaturyan and is not with Reshetnikova.
It looks like the Turks have a bad case of unconsciously projecting the fact of the Armenian Genocide.
Hye, Turks shall see in all, whether a poem, a song, even books, that they perpetuated the Turkish Genocide of the Armenian nation – over one and one half millions terrorized, slaughtered, raped,
kidnapped and bastinados… the cruel pains inflicted prior to deaths – which truths a world knows.
Surviviors forced to flee to the civilized nations of the world – to recover, to return… remembering.
Our covenent with our Martyrs lives on through all of our generations – we shall never forget.
The truths will come forth – whether in song, poems, photos, suvivor’s books, and more.
Our Martyrs will never let the Turk forget their inhumanity to humans, their bones unburied – still.
The Turk still pursues Armenians, knowing we can never forget, ever, the planned slaughter of the civilized Armenians’ nations and stealing the Armenian culture – as Turks – as their own!
Manooshag
Abrik
In The legacy of Jihad by Andrew G. Bostom on page 221 you can read the 1915 Ottoman Fatwa which was one of the last acts of the Caliphate in Istanbul. It was the ideological and religious justification for the Turks to prosecute the Armenian Genocide.
The first paragraph of the fatwa says “The massacre of unbelievers [. . .] is now our duty” and that God commands to “Take then and kill them wherever you find them”. It is entirely based on the Koran, Hadith, and four schools of Islamic jurisprudence, as Imam’s are preaching jihad in Mosques throughout the Islamic world to this very day, and likewise is the basis of Al Qaeda’s messages to the Islamic faithful.
Islam was the ideology behind the Armenian Genocide.
Isn’t it funny that allready now some turkish rightheous idiot allows himself to attend the armenian eurovision and then think that he has the right to critisize armenian affairs publically? Is this the slow decending against madness, as these strange new diplomatic agreements between Armenia and turkey are taking place, that we are seeing blossom? I mean how much paranoia and control do they think they can subject armenians to ? They should just keep their mouts shu! The armenians can vote for whatever they want to and that’s that!
Arius, I think it is important to distinguish Islam from those who interpret it in a way that suits their interests.
A day does not go by that I don’t hear and read that it is the misunderstanders of Islam that promote violent jihad. I have put a considerable effort into studying the Koran, Hadith, the four schools of Islamic jurisprudence, the history and day to day actuality of dhimmitude, and what Muslims say to each other as opposed to what they say to infidels. Ten years ago I would have talked like N, but no more. At least talk to those that go undercover into Mosque’s in the US or watch translations of Imam’s preaching on Arabic TV. To the faithful Imam’s preach that Christians and Jews are apes and pigs that must be subdued or slain. To each other Muslims say ‘first the Saturday people, then the Sunday people’. They don’t say it to infidels; they know what we want to hear. If you know Islam you know it’s taqiyya, dissimulation, taught by the Koran and Islamic jurisprudence. This is an integral part of Islam taught everywhere in the Islamic world. People in the West don’t believe it’s in Islam because they don’t want to believe it. This, I think, is the basic problem in the West, that we can’t believe that a religion can preach that evil (to rape, torture, oppress, enslave, and kill) is good and commanded by God. Do you think that after the Muslim Turks killed most of my relatives in 1915 they repented in the local Mosque, or that the Imam reprimanded them? No, it’s quite the opposite.
Arius, we should be able to distinguish between Muslims and the genocidal Turks, between religion and political agenda. Animosity exists among various fractions of the Muslim world. As more ancient and civilized nations, many Muslim Persians and Arabs, who contributed heavily into the human civilization, would abhor the Turks, considering them third-class people, uncivilized nomads. And should we forget that scores of Muslim Arabs were annihilated by fellow Muslim Turks during the centuries of the Ottoman Empire? Was it not Muslim Jemal Pasha hanging fellow Muslim Arabs in Beirut and Aleppo?
Religious confrontation is the most abysmal, disastrous way of thinking and behavior that’s attributable to the gloomy, narrow-minded fanatics. There is no alternative to religious tolerance and co-existence. As much as we know what fatwa calls for and what Muslims may say to each other, we also know that Prophet Mohammad urged to respect the Jews and the Christians as ‘People of the Book.’ His Charter of Privileges to this effect with the drawing of his hand is preserved in the St. Catharine’s Monastery in Egypt. The Charter cconsists of several clauses covering all aspects of human rights including such topics as the protection of Christians, freedom of worship and movement, freedom to appoint their own judges and to own and maintain their property, exemption from military service, and the right to protection in war.
Even in the Koran Jesus Christ is one of the Prophets of God. Jesus’ mother Mary is revered by the Muslims and a whole Surah in the Koran is dedicated to her.
Besides, many Armenians were saved by Muslim Arabs, yes, some of them were converted to Islam, but at least their lives were saved. I spent several years in the Middles Eastern societies and I was treated by the Muslims with great respect and admiration for being an Armenian, because Christian Armenians were able to become loyal, hard-working, and productive citizens in many Muslim societies.
I think N is right. It is important to distinguish Islam from those who interpret it in a way that suits their pressing political interests.
Anahit, no matter what the facts, you want to make excuses for Islam and Muslims. Your comments show that you have a limited knowledge of the Koran and Mohammad. Read up on Abrogation. The sections of the Koran that you quote that seem to show Muslim respect for Christians and Jews is nullified by abrogation later in the Koran. This is not what I think, this is from the four schools of Islamic jusisprudence. It amazes me that so many in the West know almost nothing about Islam but profess it to be this or that, mostly based on wishful thinking. Unfortunately very many of my Armenian brothers and sisters are swimming too deep in dhimmitude to see Islam for what it is. You look, but do not see.
In my oppinion as a true Armenian … this eurovision contest is about music not poletics … let turkish think what ever that suits them the main thing we know its a song intented just for the contest not to send out a message I think we have been seending messages about the Genocide other ways then music …. They know the truth deep inside so let the guilt get to them!!
I agree with Juliet. The song is just a song, nothing more or less. A beautiful one at that and sung by an equally beautiful young lady. People should grow up, stop trying to read into things intentions which aren’t really there and just accept things for what they are. Quite frankly, much of this nonsense that people carry on with is nothing more than prejudice fueled by misguided and misunderstood knowledge of history…social, cultural and political. In any case, history itself is subjective and depends entirely on the point of view of those that tell (or teach) it. History is usually written by the victors in any case, leaving the truth behind and covering up what really went on. This goes both ways, in any confrontation or interaction between peoples. It also allows those that do commit acts of inhumanity to hide behind obfuscation and denial. But it also doesn’t give the right to those who are persecuted to exact any retribution or twist what was reality to suit their ends, either. All that does is perpetuate a greater evil, for both parties. However, that doesn’t mean that acknowledgment and some compensation should not be forthcoming. We are not responsible for our ancestors mistakes and actions, but we can do something to make some recompense towards what they may have done and to make sure it never happens again. Remembering past injustices is important, but not to perpetuate the acts through stupidity and blind faith in dubious ideologies. That the genocide happened should never be in dispute, the facts speak for themselves. It is only those wishing to hide behind veils of jingoistic nationalism, pseudo-patriotism and revisionist ideological claptrap that want to deny what occurred. It could also be a sense of horror that prevents people from facing the facts…a horror that how could any of my fellow human beings commit such acts, and for what twisted ideals, that makes them revile such actions. That they know, given the right set of circumstances, they themselves could be guilty of, or witness to, such acts and not do anything to stop them occurring.
To anyone who projects such misguided thoughts upon a beautiful young woman whose talent is manifest in her voice, all I have to say is this…stop, and take a real good look at yourself. The only person I see, in this instance, who believes in the foolish thoughts you obviously want to paint everyone with, is yourself. Her own agenda, political or otherwise, is not the issue here. It is your beliefs, your thoughts and words. Take that time to really find out the facts and check your beliefs. You will find that what you believe and what is reality are two entirely different things. Then I’d suggest you keep your own counsel and give Eva (Valeriya) the credit where it’s due. For what is ultimately a beautiful song about a young woman remembering what her mother taught her about the world and how that gave her strength…her Apricot stone.
As an aside…I love apricots!! :)
Please if you can
Send the lyrics of the song all
Let us enjoy every word
let us enjoy
to sing united
forever more!
i’m Filipino-American. this was the 2nd year that i followed Eurovision. last year, my favorite was Alexander Rybak and I still adore him.
when i first heard about Apricot – it was beautiful. i knew it was a surefire winner. i was totally disappointed. nevertheless, it’s my number one on my list and Eva Rivas not only does she look like Angeline Jolie, she’s quite amazing with a very nice voice!
i truly love the song, i won’t be suprised it is very popular in your part of the world now. i’m a fan of Eva!