Special to the Armenian Weekly
On Feb. 9, reports surfaced that over four million Turkish citizens had attempted to access the online government system (known as “e-Devlet”) seeking access to their family tree. Regardless of whether the figure is accurate, it is clear that the high volume of traffic to the website at first slowed and ultimately forced the shutdown of the system, which had only recently been opened.
The reason for the extraordinary interest in these family tree reports was the claim that they contained much more information than previously available—information dating back as the early 1800s in some cases. In addition, this was the first time such information was so easily accessible online from anywhere in the world. The internet soon filled with stories of Turkish citizens learning of Armenian and other ancestry they had not known about previously.
The system remained closed for approximately a week, during which a message on the website indicated improvements were being implemented to handle the traffic. Now open again, a new process and daily limits have been employed to maintain the functioning of the website. Since the system has reopened, it is also being reported that 8 million Turkish citizens (about 10 percent of the population) have requested the new pedigree table. However, many questions remain regarding exactly what information is available, the implications for those with Armenian ancestry and, more broadly, all Turkish citizens today.
I have reviewed a very limited sample of the new “Alt ÜSt Soy Belgesi̇” (referred hereafter as NEW) as well as the previously available “Nüfus Kayıt Örneği” (referred to hereafter as OLD), in some cases for the same people. While the sampling is small, some patterns have emerged. I have attempted to reverse engineer the process used to create such documents based on a small sample as well as a limited knowledge of the sources that would have been used as inputs to that process.
NEW Versus OLD
The OLD reports I have seen only supplied information on people who attained an identification number issued during the post-1923 modern Republican period of Turkey. The person’s name, surname, parents’ names and dates of birth and death were listed. The religious affiliation was also indicated as well as the date of conversion when the affiliation changed.
The dates from early records were converted to the modern calendar. In many cases, early deaths are missing exact dates. There is also a date of registration. In some cases, the date is missing while in others it is many years after the date of birth.
The NEW report does not include a person’s identification number nor a date of registration. The NEW report traces all known ancestors of a single person. Each person is listed with surname and parents’ names, date and place of birth, marital status and date of death. There is a specific reference to address though no indication for the time period the address was in use. There are no explanatory footnotes to the report.
Observations
I have not seen any examples where the date of death was shown to be prior to 1905.
The one example of conversion to Islam took place during the Republican period (post-1923). This person was born prior to 1915 yet not registered until the Republican period.
The names shown for those known to have converted during the genocide are the Muslim names. However, the Christian names of their parents are shown.
There are examples of known Armenian ancestors listed as Muslim without any reference to their Armenian origins. In addition, those with very close DNA matches to Armenians have only Muslim names in their report even in cases where oral tradition supports the Armenian ancestry of the family.
I have seen at least one example where known ancestors alive during the Republican period are not connected to their descendants’ reports. This is hard to explain as anything but a clerical error.
Results vary significantly and the variation would seem to be mostly correlated to the number of ancestors alive at the time the 1905 Ottoman registration system was initiated. However, at least some of the results I have seen indicate the link to the Ottoman registration was not possible. In my own family, this is the case as no additional information is available for my great-great grandparents, even though they were alive in 1908 as indicated by the report of one of their daughters.
One item that has confused some people is the common occurrence of dates shown as 01/07/YYYY. I have seen at least a few people view this as indicative of the arbitrariness of dates in general. However, my view is simply that the exact date was not known or recorded (e.g. when only age is recorded) and, thus, July 1 was chosen as the mid-point of the calendar year. This is a common practice in demography.
Conclusions
It is outside the scope of this article to detail the complete history of population registration from Ottoman to Republican Turkey. However, it is important to understand the foundations of the current system in order to help explain the NEW reports.
Over the past decade, Turkey has moved to an address based electronic identification system for its citizens. The unique identification number is meant to serve as a link among numerous government information systems. In theory, the new system is linked to the family registration files. Thus, the OLD and NEW reports display the information contained in the family registration files.
For the Republican period, the family registration file should be complete yet the potentially significant gap between birth and registration could lead to complications. In addition, errors could be introduced during the conversion from paper to electronic systems. The real question though is how the link was made to Ottoman era information.
I have viewed examples of the late Ottoman registration system begun in 1905 for Palestine. There were preliminary and basic registers as well as registers for specific vital events (e.g. divorce, death, migration, etc.). Having worked with this data, I view it as near impossible to link specific people on a universal scale without a unique identification number. Such linkage requires a person registered properly during the Ottoman period, lived into the republican period and was issued a unique identification number.
It is rare for an Armenian to meet all three requirements. It is commonly accepted that women and children were under-registered in the Ottoman Empire (and even into the Republican period). Yet this is the demographic that most often survived the genocide and remained in Turkey. Thus far, the evidence seems to also indicate that those who converted to Islam prior to the genocide would not receive information on their original Christian names. Throughout the 1800s and even earlier, many thousands of Armenians were coerced into converting—the reasons too numerous to list here. The Armenians with Turkish citizenship and pre-genocide origins in Istanbul would seem to be the most likely to gain insights from the NEW reports.
There are other issues specific to surnames and methods of identification.
(For a more detailed example of the methods used to link families across multiple source records and the complexities specific to Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, please refer to Aghjayan’s in-depth article for Houshamadyan.)
The opening of information contained in the family registration files is welcome, particularly as it relates to its foundational data from the late Ottoman period. As such, there is no longer any reason to block access to the census registers from the last years of the Ottoman Empire.
Currently, researchers are only allowed access to census registers that date to prior to 1850 and the regions where Armenians predominantly lived are underrepresented in availability.
My hope is that the Turkish government will now make accessible the population registers from the early 1900s to all researchers.
Are we the Diasporan Armenians able to access this website?
If yes then how? What is the web address?
Thank you,
Ankene
Make all known records of birth,death,marriage available, on line
Thank you for this research. I wonder how many will ever be able to reclaim their true identity. Best wishes to all.
We have to be carful with Turkish so called database that wants to show that Armenians have been there all along but they just have changed their religion. This is an attempt to conclude that there was no genocide and people are still living there but have become Muslims. We shall be extremely carful to not get into such a trap.
Hi George, my last name is Ballivian of Bolivian nationality but US citizen now. I read about link between Armenia and Basque people in northern Spain where the Ballivians lives before they were sent to Bolivia by Spanish rule about 1782. There is no Ballivian name is Spain anymore only in Bolivia. Would like to see if this last name is found either in Turkey or Armenia. Thank you.
Hello Jorge,
Have you found out anything more regarding the name Ballivian and any Armenian link? Supposedly I am descended of the Ballivians in Bolivia, and I have heard that there is Armenian ancestry from that line. My mother’s maiden name is Frias.
After 45yrs. Of working on the family Tree I have been able too put together family on both sides. The main contacting points comes to the Battle of Hastings (1066). Garrett and Patton Family members were in the Battle of Hastings along with the Vikings. My father is Garrett, my mother is Patton.
12 to 1500 years ago Garrett is Germaine and Patton is Scottish. I cannot seam to go over the wall that according to Historical information leads me to Rollo, yes I said Rollo.
I will even give up to find out who I am related to.
I am at the end of my quest and I need help.
I realise that the Viking beliefs is a of life however, I to who I am related to. I am not Irish that is after all the fighting and people finding their place.
Please let me know if you can help me put together something and find out who I am.
Will the archives of the State of Armenia be opened about 585,000 Ottoman Armenians who went to the Caucasus during WW1 ?
Can you do this to Trace American Indian if it’s in your blood line but you don’t have their number ?
many will also discover their greek ancestors too.
I am looking for a Greek family member born in Turkey that immigrated to the USA in 1907. We do not know anything about his family. I cannot understand the writing on the website to try and find him in the database.
janissaries–all non turkish subject people were absorbed by the ottoman islamic culture
Your picture in this article shows only boys. What happen to the girls
there were separate orphanages for boys and for girls
Checked my DNA and found that I am 98% Armenian and 2% some other Persian DNA.
Proud Armenian Bagrationi.
God bless Armenia.
PS: Almost 20% of Azeri people have Armenian DNA. Sadly Islamized and Turkified Armenians are fighting us to death.
Where did you get your DNA Test, Preston? I’ve done mine at a few places, but those that specify the Armenian Homeland, lump Armenia together with Turkey, and the South Caucasus. For obvious reasons, Armenians and Turks aren’t one and the same, despite that their results can easily overlap. Armenians themselves have multiple haplogroup origins, and they aren’t a monolithic two dimensional people.
Brainwashed is a better word!I am sure most of them know their background and secretly keep their identity alive!The fall of Turkic herds is on horizon, just like the fall of Byzantine Empire. Corruption, distortion, dictatorship, wars, eventually, will bring them to their knees!
The then Turkish government was taken so much by their swift and short sited plan of annihilation by whatever means they used death and where they couldn’t they assimilated their subjects by rape and adoption of the children. They never thought, that one day science will catch up and knock on their DNA’s door revealing the preservation in their own veins and blood. Amazing!
Hello my name is Astrik my father who has since passed was born in Unye around 1918 and I am trying to find more information about all past relatives. My fathers name was Sarkis Darachtschian could have also been spelled Daraktschian. His fathers name was Artin. I want to find any relitive living or not and where they may be.
I live be in Montebello, California and have always wondered.
Can u help?
Thank you
Greetings Astrik ~ Years ago my cousin Married a man named Darakjian ~ live in Burbank, California “` There are several people by that name that can be found on line ~ it may be possible to get information there “`
onjig
http://www.hyeforum.com
I long for more knowledge of the Armenian side of my family. My mother is a Kasperian and now deceased. I know my grandparents came from Harpoot. Are there any records left any where that I could glean information from and where do I go on line to find out? My grandmother was a Torigian and her family owned a farm with an orchard in the Caucasus. All of that was destroyed during the genocide. I loved them so much and yearn to find out more.
God love you June Salminen, for your love of you people and family “` I hope you find the information you wish “` The very best to you and your family “`
onjig
http://www.hyeforum.com
I’e always said that in a certain amount of generations Turks will go back to their original roots. I’m just wondering if the country will remain as one with a new cultural view or divide into several different countries
Good Morning, so glad to hear that people are searching their background. Born in Turkey and now in the US. I tried to search my relatives while in Turkey last year but only found my fathers father Antranik Kazazian. Born in Sivas but that is all! I only know my grand parents and my parents. When I went to the Nufus Dairesi (birth info center) a very nice man told me that most of info on Armenians were destroyed or hidden. Blessings to your work… Agavni