Lucine Kasbarian has written about marginalized peoples and cultures. Her last book, Armenia: A Rugged Land, an Enduring People, was a simplified compilation on Armenian history for younger readers.Now, the author has struck the folktale market with an endearing tale called The Greedy Sparrow, which she aptly dedicates to her ancestors and family. The story was first put to paper by Armenian poet Hovhannes Toumanian at the turn of the 20th century.
The story, expressively illustrated by Moscow-based artist Maria Zaikina, tells of a sparrow that catches a thorn in his foot. As he asks for help, he sets off on an intriguing cycle of action that transports him through the Armenian countryside, encountering people engaged in traditional folkways.
It ends with a surprising twist and conveys moral messages about greed, selfishness, and using one’s judgment.
An interview with the writer reveals some interesting facts about her new work, book publishing, and Armenian folklore in general.
Tom Vartabedian: How did you learn of this tale and what made you want to retell it?
Lucine Kasbarian: Long before I knew who Hovhannes Toumanian was, my father would tell me this story at bedtime in his family dialect. His grandmother, Hadji Touma Kazanjian, was a celebrated storyteller in Dikranagerd. She would recite this tale and other tales from Western Armenia to my father when he was a child, often while singing and dancing. Toumanian collected stories from the Armenian oral tradition—the sparrow’s tale included—and wrote them down, many for the first time. Since we, the descendants of genocide survivors, have few tangible heirlooms, the sparrow’s tale is especially precious to me. So I dedicated The Greedy Sparrow to my forebears, great-grandmother and father. I wanted to retell this tale because it contains timeless lessons for everyone, not just for children.
TV: Why does your retelling end differently from the popular version of the tale?
LK: As ALMA curator Gary Lind-Sinanian will attest, not all folktales have a moral to the story. Some were just fantastical, outrageous or stood up for the underdog. The original tale of the sparrow contained the same lesson as The Greedy Sparrow, my original composition, yet I chose to present a variant of this tale—which was also in the oral tradition—because it most clearly conveyed that manipulation and dishonesty have their consequences. And unlike how the tale has been told orally, my version incorporates native Armenian landmarks to introduce readers to our patrimony. The wedding, for example, takes place on the island of Aghtamar, a place of great significance for all Armenians and very much in the news lately.
TV: Tell us about the illustrations.
LK: I gave my publisher an illustrated storyboard and authentic Armenian images, which she faithfully followed while putting her unique stamp on the book. I had suggested the superb Maria Zaikina to my publisher some time after the Armenian Poetry Project’s Lola Koundakjian first pointed me to Maria’s folk animations. The publishers immediately loved Zaikina’s work and hired her.
TV: What significance do you feel folktales possess? What does this tale tell us about Armenians and their culture?
LK: Folktales can touch everyone, regardless of age or social, educational, or economic status. They instill certain values and have withstood the test of time because of their simplicity, humor, wisdom, and understanding of human attributes. I hope the cultural practices depicted in the book will show Armenian children everywhere that our time-honored traditions are highly prized. To address the deeper implications in The Greedy Sparrow, I’ve created a discussion and activity guide on my website.
TV: How did you find a publisher for this tale?
LK: Years ago, I attended a workshop. When it concluded, a book editor invited me to submit a manuscript proposal I had in mind—and what eventually became The Greedy Sparrow. She liked my proposal and asked to see the manuscript. Ten years later, between publicity assignments, I sent it to her. By then, she had moved to another publishing house and said folktales were not popular among—nor purchased by—major bookselling chain stores for their supervisors to consider it a worthwhile investment. I received the same response when I sent the manuscripts to a second editor. His publishing subdivision had officially ceased producing folktales because they were not deemed popular or profitable enough. The third editor, whom I’d respected for many years, then received my manuscript and acquired it for her publishing house.
TV: Your first book was published 10 years ago. Why did it take so long to publish another?
LK: After the collapse of the Soviet Union and around the time I was writing and editing for magazines in New York, I was asked to write a straightforward introduction to the Armenian nation, which had regained its independence after 70 years. That resulted in Armenia: A Rugged Land, an Enduring People, published by Dillon Press/Simon & Schuster. I continued working full-time, eventually garnering media coverage for books produced by Hearst Magazines. When I became publicity director for the Boston-based Red Wheel, Weiser and Conari Press, I was again in charge of seeking media exposure—this time, for about 60 books a year. With that workload, pretty common for publicists, I rarely saw my family, let alone wrote for my own pleasure. I eventually moved back to New Jersey and formed my own business, Progressive Book Publicity. However, when my mother was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, I took an extended leave-of-absence to help care for her. During this time, my own writing again was not a priority. However, it’s common that after years of promoting other peoples’ books, energy develops within a publicist to produce their own work. Between elder care, a marriage, a new home, and shuttling frequently between New Jersey and Massachusetts, this book materialized.
TV: What attracted you to writing and publishing? How does publishing run in your family?
LK: Well, I come from a family of readers, writers, editors, teachers, artists, and even librarians. My great-granduncle, Hovhannes Der Kasbarian, was secretary of the Armenian Progressive School in Dikranagerd and was slaughtered with other Armenian community leaders during the genocide. His great nephew—my father Garabed/Charles—followed in Hovhannes’ literary footsteps. Using the penname C.K. Garabed, he has been a lifelong writer and commentator in the Armenian press, a member of the Armenian Literary Society, and a columnist for the Armenian Weekly for the past 20 years. My brother Antranig is a former editor of the Armenian Weekly and a journalist in his own right. My maternal uncle, the late Nishan Hamparian, was a graphic designer and the principal of St. Illuminator’s Saturday School in New York City. He was a stickler when it came to proper Armenian language use and was a great influence on our families. My other late maternal uncle, Ardash Hamparian, along with my father, were also driving literary forces in our family. Uncle Ardash was a book production guru who had worked at most of the major book publishers in New York. He also handled book production for the Armenian Prelacy and received the St. Mesrob Medal from Catholicos Karekin I for his lifetime contributions at Armenian publishing. His sons, my cousins Aram and Raffi Hamparian of the ANCA, are frequent contributors to the Armenian press. Ardash’s daughter Lorig Hamparian (also a cousin) is a school librarian. Nishan’s daughter Anahid Hamparian (another cousin) is an award-winning art director at the very publishing house where The Greedy Sparrow was published, though she does not influence book acquisitions. I also married a writer, investigative journalist David Boyajian.
TV: What did you read when you were growing up?
LK: One of the first books Mairig [Mother] read to us was a volume of Armenian history and legends she purchased in 1958 from the Mekhitarist Fathers in Venice. It was written by Father Vahan Hovanessian and titled Badmoutiun Hayots. I still think it’s one of the best, most clearly written Western Armenian-language history books of its kind for children. Even as a child and still as an adult, I wish there were more Armenian folktales available, either in simple Armenian or English. Today, many Armenian folktales can be read in Western Armenian, thanks to Matig Ebligatian, who established the Cilicia Publishing House in Haleb [Aleppo, Syria] in the 1980’s.
TV: Whom do you admire in the literary field of folklore?
LK: The late librarian, storyteller, and author Virginia Tashjian is one. Another is author and illustrator Nonny Hogrogian who won a Caldecott Medal for retelling and illustrating the Armenian folktale, “One Fine Day.” Researcher, writer, and editor Susie Hoogasian-Villa is yet another. These women—whom I envisioned as the keepers and disseminators of our Armenian folk traditions in the Armenian literary world—are my abiding heroines. Their books are listed, with purchasing information, on my website. I also have great reverence for the folk wisdom passed on to us through epics like “David of Sassoun,” “Gilgamesh,” “Aesop’s Fables,” “Grimm’s Fairy Tales” and “Tales from the 1,001 Arabian Nights.”
TV: Are there any misconceptions about writing?
LK: I think by now we know it’s a misconception that being an author is a lucrative profession. It isn’t, unless your name is Gabriel Garcia Márquez, John Grisham, or Bill Cosby. Writers write because they have a need to express themselves with words, whether there’s money in it or not. Another misconception is that you can only get work through connections. While connections can help, they don’t compensate for ability. In fact, connections can work against you; at least in my family they can! My father and I can attest to how we have gotten jobs—he as a columnist for the Armenian Weekly and I as an author—in spite of and not because of the fact that our relatives worked at the publishing operations we approached.
Another misconception relates to what I do for a living. My background in book publicity does not make me a book agent or an acquisition editor. These are very different jobs and we do need Armenians to fill these roles. If I collected a dollar every time someone asked me to “agent” their work or to ghostwrite a memoir, I’d probably have enough airfare to go to Armenia.
TV: What advice do you have for Armenians who want to break into book publishing, and for authors who want to find an agent or publisher?
LK: To apply for book publishing jobs, visit career boards like www.PublishersMarketplace.com. For aspiring writers, write every day, whether you plan to reveal your writing to the world or not. Subscribe to magazines like “Writer’s Digest.” Join publishing societies such as the National Writers’ Union and critique groups such as those at Grub Street. Visit local bookstores to see what topics are popular, how books are visually designed, and what types of writing styles exist. Attend book conventions such as Book Expo. There, you can preview what’s coming to bookstores, attend helpful seminars, and perhaps even showcase your work directly to editors who greet conventioneers between their appointments. Consult the Literary Market Place (LMP). This directory lists all publishers and agents, their areas of specialization, and how to contact them.
More tips appear in the Resources section of my website, www.lucinekasbarian.com. That said, if you have an idea, don’t worry about whether it’s in vogue right now or not. If it has merit, and you are prepared to be your work’s best advocate, it will find an audience. Ultimately, there are no shortcuts. Pound the pavement, pay your dues, do your best work, and work your way up.
TV: What are your other interests?
LK: I am a Western Armenian folk dance performer. I also love mountain hiking with my husband and friends and feel that doing so activates a cellular memory for the mountains of Armenia.
TV: What are your future plans?
LK: There are several. One family project involves the memoirs of my grandfather, Hampartzoom Hampartzoomian, a native of Sepastia. His writings about traditional folkways in the village of Khorokhon will interest those who wonder what life was like in Armenia prior to the genocide. My brother has been translating this work into English.
About the author
Lucine Kasbarian is a syndicated journalist and director-on-leave from Progressive Book Publicity, which promotes social justice activists and authors and their books. She has held leadership positions in the Armenian Youth Federation (AYF) and the Land & Culture Organization. Through the LCO, she has led volunteer groups in independent Armenia, rebuilding historic Armenian monuments and sites, and has participated in similar exploits inside Cilician Armenia.
A graduate of New York University’s journalism program, Kasbarian belongs to the National Writers Union, and the Society of Children’s Book Writers & Illustrators, among other organizations.
She served as contributing editor for Cobblestone Magazine’s special issue on the Armenian Americans and is an adroit political cartoonist whose works have seen widespread publication.
The author and her husband, journalist David Boyajian, live and work in Teaneck, N.J., and Belmont, Mass.
For the production of The Greedy Sparrow, Kasbarian served as the model for the illustrator’s rendering of the bride’s features. The bride’s wedding costume in the book even bears a resemblance to that of Kasbarian’s own folkloric bridal gown.
More details about the book are available at www.lucinekasbarian.com or www.marshallcavendish.us/kids.