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Armenian Hockey: Something Has to Be Said
Armenia is still a small country in the eyes of the international sports community. Yes, it is strong in chess, weightlifting, and wrestling, did well in European competitions in those sports, and was represented at the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing and the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. The Armenian national football team is also doing well and looks to be on the right track to qualifying for the 2012 European Cup competition. Armenia’s sports reputation, it seems, is improving.
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One would think that the players and Armenian hockey federation already knew that the players must be Armenian citizens. Odd that after the first time it happened they didn’t choose to ensure all their players were at least citizens of Armenia. In other sports Armenians from the Diaspora who play for Armenia on the international level have gotten duel citizenship.
I’m one of the players who played on that team those years if u got something to say tell me and I tell u what happen there’s always 2 Stories never 1 way around
Thanks Dear Antranig,
Very informative details, since it happened twice I suspect the players are willing to hold on to their chances to play for USA, now the question is if they still are allowed to do so and playing twice for Armenia in international games hasn’t diminished that chance too?
To answer your question about if the players who played for Armenia can play for the US.
The players who have chosen to play for Armenia, never really had a chance to play for the US team, which is composed of all NHL players.
The Americans playing for or who have played for Armenia, don’t play in the NHL, though, some players do play minor league hockey, whether in American, Canada or other international leagues around the world.
Ruining their chances of playing for the US National Team, was never really a concern for the Armenian American players.
Almost to note, Zach Bogosian, who plays for the Atlanta Thrashers, in the NHL, hasn’t publicly stated if he would play for Armenia, though, in my opinion, he would lean towards playing for the US, which, if he can remain injury free, is close to being selected for.
Hope this answers your question
This is my favor game where people play way north…this game required a lot of talent and self steam and self discipline and practice, practice and practice…hockey won’t be easy for Armenian team..they need proper equipments proper trainers and and proper coaches and also team should be financed by some organizations or private funds…they should promote few teams in Armenia where they can play and improve their skill…they should get opportunities travel to North America or Russia and play friendly games with local clubs, this is the only way that Armenia will improve their skill level and hope few of them will get drafted by NHL, like Russian players, where 20 years ago there were none, now they have many many skilled Russian players, drafted by NHL…this is a good news to hear from Armenia and their involvement…I hope Mr Boghosian, who is the only Armenian background NHL player can give advise and support to our young Armenian hockey players!! By the way dear Andranik I am die hard fan of my favor team Montreal Cnandiens!!
Dear author,
The Karen Demirchyan sport complex wasn’t built in 2008 and it isn’t named after the late founding president of the federation who was Karen Khachatryan and I think died a couple of years ago. Demirchyan was a politician who was assassinated in 1999.
Hey Mr. Dereyan,
Thanks for a really informative article. As an Armenian-Canadian I love reading about hockey. Do you happen to know if Zach Kassian, the captain of Canada’s World Junior Hockey Team, is of Armenian descent?
Thanks
Dear Gor,
Thank you for the correction. The sentence had escaped our attention.
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Admin.
To Alex
There are conflicting reports by different websites about Kassian. Some stating that he is of Armenian descent and other saying he is only Canadian.
So, I am still trying to fully research Kassian’s story myself, but, I am leaning towards him being Armenian, until I am 100% sure that he isn’t.
Unfortunately, getting citizenship is not the only requirement to play for a national team, and this is where the Armenian federation had problems:
A player with dual citizenship has to prove that he or she played two consecutive seasons in the country they represent, without playing anywhere else during that time. In the case of Armenia, the players may have had dual citizenship (or not, in some cases), and there were reports that some may (or may not) have played parts of two seasons in Armenia for two years. This would be proven by a valid International Transfer Card showing that the player had moved fulltime to the other country.
However, there was undeniable proof that those players were playing in the United States as well (whether college club hockey, high school hockey or elsewhere). Whether ITCs were filed at all was thus put into question.
I find it disappointing that there are so many factual errors in this article. I will give you a few examples.
1. Armenian players had proper documentation(passports/citizenship), the issue that created a problem was the fact that some of them had not played the required amount of seasons in Armenia. The passports off all the players are checked before they take the ice.
2. A player can change national teams as long as they follow the protocols of the IIHF. An example of such a case is Peter Stasny.
3. A full set of men’s hockey gear can be acquired for a lot less than 2,000 dollars.
4. The 2007 DIV III World Championship was held in Dundalk, Ireland not Bosnia.
5. The 2008 WC Qualifiers were held in Bosnia and the Armenian Team participated.
6. No investigation was carried out in 05-06 in regards to Armenian player documents. If that was the case Armenia would not have been allowed to register for the tournament in Ireland in 07, or Bosnia in 08. Any issues with the IIHF occurred after the ’08 qualifiers.
A few other facts to take into consideration
1. Zach Bogosian has already represented the United States
2. Not all of the players that play for Team USA at the World Championships are NHL players.
No offense but players who are good enough to play for the US team aren’t even slightly interested in playing for team Armenia. Im Armenian and live in canada im only quarter though (my dad is half armenian half italian). If I got dual citizenship could I try out? Does anyone know the level comparable these guys are. If MEXICO beat them 48-0 im assuming very low. I cant imagine team Mexico even beating a Jr C. Team from Canada.
Most of the Mexican National Team play in the US or Canada. Quite a few of them played for Canadian College programs. So I think they would do well against a JR C Team from Canada.
I’ve been part of Team Armenia since 2004 and I can tell you all of our players had Armenian Passports. We were cleared to play but once out team started winning games against “good” teams, those “good” teams didn’t like the outcome so they cried wolf to the IIHF and the IIHF bent over backwards for them… period. Other teams assumed it was going to be like Mexico where they got easy points but that wasn’t the case and they didn’t like it. Sports are just like politics; whoever is stronger or more popular is going to get away with anything,
meant to say Under 18 team