ISTANBUL, Turkey (A.W.)—On April 24, the Istanbul branch of the Human Rights Organization of Turkey organized an event commemorating the Armenian Genocide in Istanbul. The commemoration was held in what was formerly the “tobacco warehouse,” now renovated and being used for exhibitions, events, and meetings.
The event opened with Armenian and Assyrian songs performed by the group “Kardes Turkuler” (Songs of Brotherhood).
Lawyer Eren Keskin greeted the audience, numbering around 150, and said: “Today is the 24th of April, the 94th anniversary of the arrests in Istanbul which started the Armenian Genocide in 1915.” She added, “The official history [in Turkey] denies the genocide, but we know what happened and we believe it’s important to tell people the truth. So, today we will commemorate the most brilliant intellectuals of the Ottoman Armenians: the poets, writers, physicians, lawyers, and members of parliament, who were taken away on the 24th of April, 1915 and murdered.”
The Bosphorus Performance Arts Group presented the life stories and poems of three great Armenian poets who perished during the genocide—Roupen Sevag, Siamanto, and Taniel Varoujan—as well as the life and work of writer, lawyer, and parliamentary member Krikor Zohrab, who was also killed during the genocide. The presentation was accompanied by photographs projected onto a screen and Armenian folk music played in the background.
Publisher Ragip Zarakolu talked about Teotig, the Armenian writer who was arrested together with the others but escaped miraculously, and his famous book Hushartzan Abril Dasnimegi, which will be published in Turkish soon by the Belge publishing house. An exhibition of pages from this book was held in conjunction with the event, with lit candles under each page. A brief Turkish translation of each page was also provided.
In turn, Eren Keskin talked about Gomidas, while songs performed by Gomidas himself (recorded in 1912 in Paris) were played in the background and his photographs projected on the screen. At the end, Eren Keskin said, “Let’s leave the last word to Gomidas Vartabed.” And Gomidas’ song “Karun a” was heard while images of the deportation of Armenians were projected on the screen.
Ayse Gunaysu
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Congratulations to people having the courage to face truth despite the position of their state. Question to all readers : how do you know if what you are educated to is true or false ? US were taught about terrible communists while USSR was educated to hate capitalists … how could an american or russian know if this education was based on true facts ? How could it all now vanish (nobody in the States or USSR would bring such positions now …) … To all Turkish people against the idea that their ancestors may have done this, knowing from their education they are right, how can you take position without really going to see genocide museums and all the facts that made it so that so many neutral countries recognized this, knowing the ones that did not recognize did not because Turkey is a priviledged partner … Please – before reacting negatively to this – try to accept that what you know in Turkey about this genocide is only from your education, and that all could have been done to make you think the way the state wants … like USSR and US at the time …
Give back Armenians their dignity by recognizing the past … no solution can be found if problem is not identified .., don’t let them stare at Ararat, historical site of Armenia, and Ani, their former capital, behind your border … give them back this little territory, like Germans once did …
I am very touched by these commemoration in Turkey. A lot of Armenians died, but the truth will never die.
I am an Armenian,born in Yerevan raised in the US. I must say that I have complete respect for every Turkish person that does their own research on the Armenian Genocide, and forms his own judgment on what really happened and not what their government told them what happened.And I must say, alot of Turks know the truth,but their pride will not allow them to accept the truth. Pride and dignity is accepting the truth and making mends, not denying it and giving the world the image that Turks are liers. I really wouldn’t feel proud being called a lier. The facts are out there do your own research, learn the truth. I did my own research even after my grandma told me that her dad died in the hands of Turks. I wanted to research both sides before I formed a judgment. And now I am convinced by my own research that there was an Armenian Genocide. Its really ok to say sorry, but to deny the truth is like condoning what your ancestors did.
Ayse Gunaysu is an pro Armenian and sympathiser in the cause. Anything she writes should not be treated as trustworthy. The article is highly unlikely to be true…
I have a friend who grew up in Istanbul living in Yesilkoy, which is predominantly Armenian. He is a Turk. He went to school with Armenian kids, attended university with them, and some of these Armenian students went on to perform their military service. One is a dentist and even displays the Turkish flag and a foto of himself in his reception are of his dentist. They still catch up. One of his friends now resides in the US, and every couple of years, returns to Istanbul to visit. They meet and my friend collects the rent (in cash) from his tennant and gives it to him each visit (in cash)…
This is the trust they have in one another…
I am one person who spent the a considerable time in Turkey, and studied high school and Lise in Izmir, Turkey. I had friends of all sorts. Kurdish, Jewish etc. I travelled alot in Turkey over the years and prettymuch went everywhere.
Turks do not preach hatred of Armenians, (Can you say the same for yourselves?)I myself did not find out about the so called “Genocide” until 2002 when I came across some silly website. To be honest, I beleived it at first, then knowing my own countrymen, our history etc I started to do some research. Without being biassed I have learned what I have learned and am quite comfortable about it. It was a tragedy, yes, it was a dark terrible time in Anatolia… Armenians wanted their own lands and were tricked by Russians.. I can understand this and why you did what you did…
Why wont you open your archives for the historians to research? The Turkish government for decades have been inviting historians and scholars to investigate the archives of all those countries involved, Russia, Armenia, France, US and England. Recep Tayip Erdogan just in his comments on the Obama speach yesterday said “I have written a letter to the prime minister of Armenia in 2005 asking him to open his archives so a joint investigation can occur. The results should to to the international courts…. And Turkey is willing to accept its history, just show us unconditional, categorical, decisive truth in recorded (undocted) documents. Remember you are talking about rewriting history and the history of peoples who have been around as long as history itself.
By the way, Prime Minister Erdogan is yet to receive a reply. What is it Armenia is hiding???
Read the below// (Because you all speak and write Turkish fluently)
You can review this link :
http://hurarsiv.hurriyet.com.tr/goster/haber.aspx?id=11515890&tarih=2009-04-26
“MEKTUBUMA CEVAP ALAMADIM”
– Ancak gösterdiğimiz bu hassasiyetin iyi algılanmadığını da zaman zaman görüyoruz. 1915 olaylarıyla ilgli önceki gün yapılan açıklamaları gerçeği yansıtmayan bir tarih yorumu olarak görüyorum. Açıklama metninin olayların bir bölümünün kaleme alındığını görüyorum. Tarihe ve tarih bilimcilerine bırakılması gereken böyle bir uzmanlık konusunun sürekli olarak kullanılması, her yıl lobilerin istismar meselesi haline getirilmesi, ülkeler arasındaki ilişkilerin normalleşmesini engelliyor.
– Türkiye olarak tarihçiler tarafından incelenmesi için her zaman samimi bir gayret içerisinde olduk. 2005’te bizzat yazdığım mektupla bu mektubun da cevabını almış değilim. İyi niyetli önerilerimiz karşılık bulmadık.
Thank you my dear Ragip. I have received your e-mails about this historic event organised by you and the Istanbul Shubasi of Insan Haklari. As before, once again I salute your (and Istanbul Human Rights Branch members’ and activists’ – Ayse Gunaysu and Ereen Keskin amongst others) courage, deepest decency, integrity, humanity and principled friendship.
I was moved to read your email announcements about this event but really touched and moved to tears reading this account (above) and imagining the poetry of Siamanto, Varoujan… and the music of Vartapet Komitas being performed in Turkish on such a day in such a venue (where it all started!) by such people… .
It makes me sick that our authorities in Yerevan are presenting their negotiations with the Nazis in Ankara in the context of De Gaul-Adenauer negotiations in post-war Europe, therefore dignifying the deeply undemocratic and aggressive regime in Ankara with respect which it clearly does not possess or deserve and perpetrating the fallacy/deceptive self fantasy (deliberately cultivated once again by Europe and the US) that the two parties (aggressive Genocide perpetrator/denier Turkey and weak little Genocide victim Armenia) are equals!!!
Long Live the Struggle for true democracy in Turkey
Down with the militarist/aggressive Nazi regime in Ankara
Best,
Bernard
If you are truly interested in finding out exactly what happened you need to do a little unbiased research about it yourself. Armenia as a nation is a troubled one. They have been used and manipulated throughout the history by western nations and Russia. Most Armenians have a little in common and this makes it very difficult to unite and accomplish peace within their borders. They do NOT agree on any of the important issues that can better their future, but the only issue that unites the majority is their hatred towards TURKS and the Armenian leaders and the politicians know that and they use that extensively to their own personal benefits. Growing up in Turkey the most will tell you that they have no issues or hatred towards Armenia or Armenians, most are not even aware of the way Armenians feel about them. This will eventually change and more and more people will eventually find out about it if Armenians continue with their attitude towards Turkey and Turkish people. By doing that you are NOT accomplishing anything, but hurting yourselves and your country. Why involve International Community, spend all that money all over the world instead of feeding your people. How do you thing you are going to benefit, if this so called genocide gets recognized internationally. Everybody in the area put their past behind and investing in their futures including Azerbaijan, but because of this hatred Armenia is being left behind in a land lock position, being manipulated and used by Russia again. Armenians WAKE UP! Russia is not your friend or solution to your problems. Stop being used and manipulated by Russia for their National interest.
Because of Armenian attitude towards Turks, find out what they have done to people Azerbaijan recently, many mass graves of men, women and kids to prove that. Now explain, why would a nation who believes that they have been subject to a genocide would subject the others to a genocide like this. The fact remains that Armenia have betrayed, back stabbed and deceived Turks after 600 years of great relationship by joining Russian Forces and attacking Turks. They have burned the villages down and killed the Turks and the Muslims in the area without discriminating men, women and kids which nobody talks about. This 600 years with Turks were Armenia’s golden years in history if you take your time and study their history you will see that. Do you really think that after all these years Turks woke up one morning and said lets kill all the Armenians today, does this really make sense???
Here is the truth on so called Armenian Genocide!!!
http://www.ermenisorunu.gen.tr/english/intro/index.html
Don’t you have anything better to do than spread your manure at an Armenian site?
By the way, my comment was intended for OCDevin.
Can our Turkish fiends Aslan Bey and OCDevin please take their heads out of the deep sand that they are buried in and answer this one question: If all the propaganda that you are repeating parrot style is true then WHERE ARE THE 2.5 MILLION ARMENIANS WHO HAD LIVED ON THEIR “ARMANI AYALATI” FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS NOW? And even if you actually believe your government propaganda and, as you say, the Armenians did revolt and side with the Russians, etc. etc. why were the entire population (2.5 million or as your government propaganda says 600,000!) deported/destroyed/killed?
as for Erdoghan’s letter to Armenia’s President in 2005 it was answered same week. the Armenian government has used many international diplomatic opportunities to repeat that answer publicly but since the Turkish government does not like the answer it was given it lies about not having received a relpy; see here http://www.armeniaforeignministry.com/news/inthenews/050517_t_markarian.html
and here
http://www.armeniandiaspora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25124 – 37k
and here
http://www.armeniandiaspora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25124 – 37k
Mr. haroutunian, I understand you don’t like to hear opinion of others, I feel for you and your loss, least you could do is show me the same sympathy. A human life and a mind is a terrible think to waste, regardless of race, religion, Turk or Armenian. It must not happen, in any place or time, but why is it difficult for you to accept both Turks and Armenians slained at the collapse of the Empire.
Mr. Nazarian, I am sure you do truly believe the information about 2.5 Million Armenians being in the area, but I assure you it is an impossibility for that area to have a population of that size at the time. If there were 2.5 million Armenians in the area constituting lets say 20% of the population you are saying the area had 10 million people. Does it make sense for such a remote area having that kind of population.
The borders are opening, and the both sides have agreed to study the events and the truth is about the come out, we all have waited long time and I have no problem waiting a little longer. You will see, both the Armenians and the Turks will overcome this challenge regardless of the results within our time and we will have to learn how to live together, our ancestors managed it for over a thousand year why can’t we. Many Turks died at the same time, the Ottoman Empire collapsed into pretty much nothing, those responsible were charged and arrested, I don’t understand what else Armenians could ask for. Again like your family you don’t get to choose your neighbors. Most Turks have forgiving you for the betrayal during that time, also forgiven you for the killings of Turkish officials, their wives and children in 38 cities and 21 Countries why can’t you.
To OC Devin and all Turks – you believe what you believe to be true about the Armenina Genocide because your government has educated you so. They have re-written historical facts, re-written history books, destroyed whatever archives they could get their hands on in order to cover this sad and dark history of the Ottoman Turks. They made sure there was not one single piece of evidence in the entire country to show otherwise. Sit back and think – everything you know about the Armenian Genocide is what you have read and studied in your country, what your government told you to be “true” is this not so? Even your parents were so taught. How would you know anything otherwise if you do not do the research yourself! Armenians did not sit down one day and make all of this up. How absurd. This is a government conspiracy against all of it’s Turkish citizens. These killings and murders perpetrated by the Ottoman Turks and their Kurdish “friends” at the time, against the entire Armenian population of Historical Eastern Anatolia in every Vilayet were documented by non-Armenian missionaries and ambassadors living and witnessing the fisrt Genocide of the Twentieth Century – right then and there.
It’s done! Now, not you, but your government needs to fess up.
I am curious, do any of your history books document the order from Constantinople from Talaat Pasha directing all Vilayets in how they were to execute this order and how they were to “exterminate” the Armeninas? This original document exists.
Having read Mr/Mrs OCDevin’s last extremely patronising and ostrich style posting where he completely fails to answer my simple questions and instead goes on aggressive and automatic Turkish official history or parrot/ostrich mode, with his head buried deep in the sand, (i.e the Armenians were “good people” for 500 years of Ottoman Empire but when they suddenly decided to be “bad people…traitors…gaurs..” and sided with the Russians… etc. etc., instead of continuing to be like obedient sheep, we Turks had to ‘deport’ them to the desert, etc. etc. the usual kindergartenor official ‘history’ that most Turks are taught in their Kemalist schools which no one else in the world agrees or accepts) I have to agree with Mr Harutunian’s posting and say that it is pointless to try and reason with these guys in the same way that it would have been pointless to have tried to educate and enlighten any Germans away from racist nationalst thinking and resoning without the complete destruction of the Nazi state by the Allies and complete de-Nazification of German state, education and society at large. This task is simply too great to be accomplished through this sort of web-reasoning by individuals. Mr OCDevin and millions of others who ‘think’ and ‘reason’ like him are proof that Turkish society as a whole is sick to the point that it is incapable of reforming itself with civilised, democratic-liberal values. These values must be imposed on it from outside, just like it was in the case of Germany and Japan – note what happens to people like Hrant Dink and Orhan Pamuk and thousands of other enlightened people who do not accept the official version of history in Turkey: they get persecuted and prosecuted under article 301 and if that doesn’t work they get murdered or forced into exile abroad. And yet a society that is not allowed to freely debate its history and has laws to punish any of its own citizens – including through torture, murder and exile, etc. – who are intelligent enough not to believe the official-kindergarten version of Turkish history but want to find out the truth for themselves through independent research and study, has the cheeck to lecture others and invite Armenia to research into the Genocide!
In this sense it is highly unfair that the Armenians and the Armenian Republic (and to some extent the Assyrians, Greeks/Cypriots) should be shouldering this fight almost single-handedly – a task which is simply above their capacity or capability as they have already been at the receiving end of Ottoman-Turkish subjugation and oppression, and brutal Turkish racist nationalism for so often so long. Europe and the US who have created this nightmarish monster, both through deliberate policy due to self interest as well as sometimes neglect and naivity, have a duty to sort the problem out before it commits firther upheavals/crimes/genocide against Kurds, Armenians, Greeks, etc. Just as importantly, Turkey must be democratised/liberalised/civilised before it can be Europeanised (can be let into Europe/civilised international community) otherwise there is every danger that Europe will be barbarised/Turkified as the latest examples in Davos and the Danish Mohammed cartoons/Rasmussen-Nato shambles clearly demonstrate.
Mr. Bernard Nazarian,
Is this your answer to if a genocide took place or not? As always like every other Armenian you have discussed everything including the kitchen sink but the actual subject at hand. You can only dance around it so long, the truth remains there is no actual evidence proving your so-called genocide. Just showing pictures of the dead Armenians to people around the world doesn’t prove your people were subject to a genocide. Same for, just because your parents and grand parents told you so, it doesn’t mean it really happened. You and your people have lied to west and feed them with this nonsense one-sided story in absence of representation from the other side for way too long. Fortunately for all who are after the actual truth, times are changing and reaching beyond your borders for sharing information and informing others becoming easier day by day. You are no longer able to spread your distorted version of the truth without getting a respond from other party for your baseless allegations. Here are a few more comment and I am going to leave it at that:
Why do you need recognition from Turkey or Turks for your genocide claims. If it really happened and you believe it happened why do you need recognition from anybody at all. Remember and honor your deads and move on like every other nation in the world, yet Armenians constantly seeking for recognition for their genocide claims from every country they live in, Armenians are the only nation who does that, therefore it is safe to assume your people have a hidden agenda behind it you aren’t openly discussing it.
Since you are such an expert in Turkey and the Turks and our entire system you so well put it, it is safe for we all to assume that there is no way on earth you could convince Turkey or the Turks to accept your genocide claims, then why even bother trying.
By the way thanks for shedding a light to your distorted version of current Turkey for those who are not aware of it, but again as always this has absolutely nothing to do with the subject at hand. Nationalism or Kemalism as you put it didn’t exist back then, it started with the new republic after 1923 for those who are wondering.
It must be very hard for you to believe but we love our sick country and the nation just the way it is. I am very happy for you that Armenia and Armenians are much better off than Turkey.
For those who really are interested in unbiased debate and information about the Armenian Genocide claims, you can go to a website that is not hosted by Turks nor the Armenians like this one…
http://www.armeniangenocidedebate.com/
Following Mr/Mrs OCDevin’s latest post I strongly believe he is not just an ordinary Turkish citizen seeking unbiased knowledge and truth about a the Armenian Genocide but a priest Genocide denial fable factory, a wholy owned subsidiary of the state of Turkey – a paid academic or, in Turkish, maamour or official/policeman/agent perhaps in a low level college or state funded university.
Be it as it may it completely proves the point I was making in my previous posting: i.e there is NO POINT IN TRYING TO REASON WITH THESE GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN FED KINDERGARTEN HISTORY ALL THEIR LIVES AND ARE COMPLETELY BRAIN WASHED or even worse they are like ostricges, the bird that dig their heads deeper and deeper into the sand and think or pretend there is no one or no one can see them not realising that the deeper they dig their head in the sand the more they reveal their bare backside for the world to laugh at – or to be disgusted by as in the case of consistent denial and export of denilism of Genocide by Turksih. I end by suggesting solemly that, UNLESS IT CHANGES ITS ATTITUDE AND COMES TO TERMS WITH ITS OWN HISTORY, Turkey should change its name officially to OSTRICH! So it should become THE REPUBLIC OF OSTRICH instead of Turkey. After all both turkey and ostrich are birds but given the attitude of Mr/Mrs OCDevin and millions of other Turks like him – as demonstrated above, the Republic of Ostrich is a more appropriate name for a country whose inhabitants are blind to the truth and don’t have the courage to face it and move on even theough the whole world is telling them to do so. Over and OUT!
No evidence Genocide took place ? what a lowlife – sorry for being blunt but you are annoying me… go to google image search and type Armenian Genocide and look at the pics – and if you can still say that was not Genocide than in my opinion, you are not human and your blood is not red like the rest of the humans on earth….
http://www.firstgenocide.com
Be careful Armenian Social Network, or some “good Armenian” like Hagop will criticize you. He apologized to a turk and called me a victimizer when I told that other turk who posted some nonsense here to crawl back under his rock in Mongolia.
Arpi, you are also narrow-minded and delusional. But it’s nice to have proof of “bad Armenians” like yourself — the ones who manage to disrespect and alienate both Turks and Mongolians (whether “good” or “bad”) in a single sentence. Keep posting.
Hey Hagop, if I’m a bad Armenian, we might as well all hang it up. I have every right to disrespect Turks. Nothing against Mongolians. Just wish the Turks had stayed where they belonged and not headed west. Wake up pal. In case you hadn’t noticed, the Turk I’m supposed to respect is questioning the veracity of the genocide. What’s to respect? I respect the memory of my dead, make that murdered, ancestors, not the filth that murdered them or their worthless offspring who want proof that it happened. Bad enough for ya’?
Hakop, Every person has the right to disrespect anyone who they really want to. In the case of Arpi, why would she respect those who killed her ancestors and to this day deny the world-wide known fact??? I’m an English Jew and I have studied Armenian history for 8 years in the University of Oxford, England. I have done years of research on the Armenian Genocide…. let me tell you Armenians, you know very little of what happened to your nation. It’s worse than what you guys think. To this day, there are many countries that want to get rid of the Armenians becuase they are smart, intelligent and capable of governing the entire world. Yes, every country knows that Armenians are capable of doing so. That’s why they try to get rid of you guys. Armenian Genocide is a FACT!!!! and soon this will even be recognized by the Turkish government. Take my word for it becuase I know so. It’s too late for the Turks to deny it………… it’s very late! Armenians, let the Turks talk and write as much as they want since all they do is advertising. The entire world knows about the Armenian Genocide, so any comments by Turks will be an advertisement by them :) (they don’t get this). hahah
Just want to let you guys know that MANY JEWS LOVE ARMENIANS!!!!!
Thank you John Kaplan. Sounds like you’ve been reading T.E. Lawrence who said the Armenians were the smartest people in the world and that’s why the Turks kill them. At any rate, among the faults of the Armenians is trying to be overly fair at all costs. Sometimes it actually clouds their reasoning–eg Hagop. I suppose it should not be surprising that so many Turks and Turks using non-Turk names follow the Armenian press and post comments denying the genocide here. What is surprising is folks like Hagop applauding them and criticizing folks like me.
John, you have no idea how welcome your post is for many reasons. Wish there were more folks like you.
Armenians like Arpi, like Turks, are also capable of using non-Armenian (and apparently Jewish) names.
I cannot believe I am reading this nonsense here, about the Armenians being the smartest people in the world. If that was the case how come after over 600 years of Ottoman rule you were not able to learn that uprisings and killings of the Ottoman Turks in the area was going to lead to this slain. Knowing the history of Turks this was inevitable and could have been avoided easily.
Also, if Armenians are smart enough to govern the world how come they cannot even govern a tiny country with a population of 3 mil.
Jason, take it up with T. E. Lawrence. And find another ethnic newspaper to use as your braying ground.
Hagop, what is your problem and what are you talking about. Armenians like Arpi are capable of using non-Armenian names? Are you out of your mind? do you think I’m posing as Jason Kopeczki or John Kaplan? I was as startled as I can only assume you were by Kaplan’s post, but if you are suggesting I posted it under his name…maybe you should find another ethnic paper to use as a braying ground. Or if not an ethnic one, perhaps one for the insane. You are not well.
ARPI JAN,
MY ELDEST UNCLE WHO ACCOMPANIED MY GRANDFATHER ON THE DEATH MARCH FROM WHERE THEY PERISHED -DESERTS- CRY OUT !!!,better described by A.Aharonian” ayskan aryun te wor mornan mer wortik,togh voghj ashkharh hayubn GARTA NAKHADINK”..i was sickend reading those posts above by fascist turks..
MY FATHER-THAT ESCAPED, ALSO TOLD US THAT THERE WERE ALSO SOME GOOD TURKS…BUT …MAJORITY ARE WHAT WE KNOW THEY ARE..HOWDEVILISHLY DISPOSED ABOUT US..WE MUST BDE VERY VERY CAREFULL.UP ABOVE SOMEONE-I DON’T EVEN CARE TO REMEBER NMAE,SAID EXACTLY WHAT I KNEW THEY WOULD START TO GRIND”give them back their ararat-aghri dagh–.ani ruins..”AS THOUGH WE WERE STILL THE REMNANTS TURNEWD TO BEGGARS…NO ASLAN BALASI, WE DON’T TAKE “bakhshish-we demand first of all recognition by your government of the genocide perpetrated by your previous government(s)YES ,ATATURK ALSO DID SAME YOUR S CALLED REPUBLIC FOUNDER, IN SMYRNA AND THEN Some.WE DO NOT HATE TURKS WE DO NOT RESPECT DENIALISTS…JUST SHUN AWAY FROM THEM KEEP AWAY…GO TO EUROPE, U.S. WHEREEVER YOU LIKE,THAT IS YOUR BUSINESS. JUST LEAVE US ALONE…!!!!!for as our pres. said at Der el Zor…WE ARE, WE SALL BE AND WE SALL MULTIPLY…
NONETHELESS THIS ART TO THE “paremid”ARMENS..SEE I FORTOLD THAT THEY WOULD BY AND BY -FOR THAT IS THEIR OTTOMAN TWISTED MINDSET, CUNNINGLY -BY AND BY -YAVASH YAVASH CME TO REALIZE AND TRY TO START WITH SUGAR COATED OFFERINGS…WHY THE WILL EVEN SEND GUYNAYSUN LIKE A DOZEN TO COME AND PAY RESPET AT OUR MARTYRS MONUMENT “tsitsernakapet”…ONLY DON’T EXPECT THAT THEY PAY COMPENSATIONS OUT OF THER POCKETS-WHEN THEIR POCKETS ARE BEING ILLED IN BY u.s. BAKHISHISH…you expect these ..to pay us?
i explained the only way it can be received is through oil companies-that erroneously by passed armenia-their stout REAL ALLY IN TWO WW…s.set aside from billios of transit duties that they pay to great turey, pay to the Armenians..
FOR THEY ALS ARE TO BE ASED WHY DIDN’T YOU PASS IT THROUGH ARMENIA? see what i mean…THE TURK IS RIGHT IN only one thing that we have been decived by odars,especially the anglos…Z Germans…who ttrained turkish officers /army during WWII AND NOW SAME IHAS BEEN REPEATING THE OTHER .ANGLO SAXON FOR MORE THAN HALF A CENTIURY…
Russians?they have never MASSACRED ARMENIANS ,SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS INDEED, CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN TWO NATIONS PEOPLES.BUT right now they are O.K. and their duma has officially acknowledged the armenian genocide…
don’t pay much attn; to what these fascist mentality turks are propagating here. Take it very lightly.Next they will haggle about “akhijevan that is MILLENIA OLD ARMENIAN, THEN KARS ARDAHAN…THEN WHEN KURDISH ISSUE RIPENS UP A BIT MORE START THINKING REAL HARD WHAT TO DO WITH THESE “ERMENIS”…oh god has there ever been any people nation (EXCEPT THE TURCO-AZERIS) that has hated to their gutts the “Ermenis”.I DO NOT HATE TURKS OR AZERIS BUT THEIR FASCIST FUNCTIONARIES…WHO DO ALL THEY CAN TO DENY WHAT THEIR FORFATHERS DID TO US…
GO GRIND YOUR OXYDATED AXES ELSEWHERE, YOU FASCISTS-learn from zGermans willya? OR KEEP ON SAME PARRROT LIKE REPETITIONS,AS SOME GOOD ARMEN SAID ABOVE…SEE WHAT YOU GAIN.
WE ARE ALL FOR NEIGHBOURLY RELATIONS-PROVIDED YOU RESPECT TRUTH AND MAKE AMENDS …TIME IS RIPE FOR YOU TO THINK IT OVER AGAIN…DO NOT THINK BY POSTPONING YOU ARE GAINING MUCH…OUR JUSTFULL CAUSE, WILL SOOON TURN INTO AN INTERNATIONAL LEGAL CASE…WAIT AND SEE……
Respect à ces Turcs qui ont courageusement refusé de cautionner les genocideurs ou leurs descendants négationnistes,de Nazim Hikmet à Taner Akçam,en passant par Orhan Pamuk.
Marie,
Je Méxcuse pour mon mal Francais,mais je veaut vous dire que ¨Naturelement nous respectons les Trucs comme Orhan et Aklcam ou bien Gunaysu…
Cést pas ca.Mais le immense majoritee de Turcs sont mal informee pendent 70 annes…ils ne sont au currant que son Gouvernment anterior ont commettez les Grand massacre et Genocide.Il faut que on preparent pour ca.
Nazim ou Jemal ou Enver,Talaat son de la meme Fabric…entendue et plus encore comme luis AUJOURD HUI MEME…
Cordialment
Iam sorry but I would not call armenians a smart bunch. Furthermore, I don’t need a university degree to come to my conclusion. I find that many comments made by armenians on this website reflect a lot of “heart”, but very little “brain”. It is very clear to me, that gushing emotions on their part, are hindering their logical thought patterns. Armenians may be a hard-working bunch, but overall they suffer from “tunnel-vision”. I find Miss Gunaysu’s and others’ articles very informative and eye-opening. However, when I go to the comments section, to say that I find the responses disappointing would be an understatement. Personally I would advise armenians to use the internet as a means to broaden their perspectives and widen their horizons. Far too many of them subscribe to 18th century thought patterns. Many, if not most of them go about with blinkered eyes, seeing the world around them as black and white. Don’t get me wrong. I will not deny the fact of the armenian genocide, with all the cruelties and the barbarism inflicted on an entire nation by the turkish rulers. But it astonishes me that, the survivors of the genocide are fossilized into the Anatolian mentality of the past, despite their removal from there, both geographically as well as in time. A person’s education level has nothing to do with the schooling s/he has received. We have today access to knowledge, wisdom and understanding, which the past generations could not have imagined. I suggest that armenians take advantage of the opportunities they have today, in order to be able to develop a functional, realistic and logical mental frame, so that they can better cater for the challenges to come their way in the future.