Garen Mouths Off
Yegparian: We’ll Sue!
Yes, it’s time for our community to get into the litigious act! And fortunately, we’ve started to catch on. Pursuing our goals requires being open to all avenues that will advance our struggle. The courts, especially in the U.S., are a very good forum that has been, to say the least, underutilized by our community.
Everyone knows about the seemingly large sums received by Jewish survivors of the Holocaust. This is separate from some of the big payouts, or restoration of stolen pro
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And what reparations exactly do we seek as a nation? Before we can apply to the courts, as the writer argues, doesn’t the plantiff need to assemble a list of grievances, demands?
So now, given that we have been stymied into obtaining that elusive “recongition” from the U.S. , we have decided to change course and pursue reparations?
Will reparations get an Armenian living in the diaspora one step closer to the lands they are all crying about?
I dont’ know about you but I agree that our law students, lawyers and judges must work together to get our Cause move forward… we need all of you to work together to get the results we want..
I pray to GOD that HE will protect and guide our lawyers as they are a very important part of our collective success……
God Bless
Gayane
Watch out for judges who are against us and highly politicized, which most are. I am sure that Turks and State Department people right now are figuring out ways to beat us by having government lawyers study our cases and go behind the scenes to influence judges. This is how it is done. There are lots of people who do not want us to succeed: Turks, some Jews who are pro-Turkish, liberals who are pro-establishment, Christian conservatives, the military, and political conservatives who are pro-Turk and hateful.
Have we prepared the groundwork for lawsuits? You know, if we lose, we are in deep trouble because we will have set a precedent.
Do not overuse the word Genocide. Rely more on injury, reparations, and the fact that American Armenians were often murdered by Turks in 1915.
They went to America and became citizens and then went back to Armenia pre-1915.
Include others like Greeks and some Americans in the reparations suits.
I am Armenian and I’d like to know how I can sign up to receive reparations from such lawsuits. I admint, however, that I’m not a genocide survivor.
Hey Garnik,
What freekin reparations do you want exactly? Money? Fame? Fortune?
Maybe you want Turkey to afford you the opportunity to return and reside in the community of your forbearers? Where was that? Malatya? Erzerum? Kayseri?
Sure, just forward a draft of your petition to the ANC or Assembly and take a number. There are thousands of “confused” Armenians like you who feel they are owed something but have no clue want they want or why.
Hey Mko,
I’d like to think you’re Turkish, and I am not “confused.” I rightfully know that there’s a great deal owed to me and my people. To all ARMENIANS. More than you can calculate on your calculator.
Many, MANY of the Genocide victims are not going to be there when justice is finally going to be done to our people, and I want ALL Armenians to demand and receive what was stolen from us, the lives that we lost and all that compounded with interest.
And if you’re Armenian, I ask you to please stop this defeatist and peasant mentality already.
Mko, with all due respect, you sound a bit self-hating to me. Do you yourself have any suggestions as to what our demands should be? What point are you trying to prove exactly?
In my opinion, our demands are identical to those obtained by the Jews after the Holocaust vis-a-vis reparations. It’s not that confusing.
Territorial compensation to RA is a whole separate issue from the genocide, and that is based on the Treaty of Sevres. We cannot lump the two cases together because it discredits the genocide case–people think Armenia is being too greedy etc. when they demand land.
“Maybe you want Turkey to afford you the opportunity to return and reside in the community of your forbearers? Where was that? Malatya? Erzerum? Kayseri?”
This argument is fatal and should never be uttered by any of us. The ‘ability’ to go live in Turkey and contribute to their economy?! Is that ‘compensation??’ Remember, we were once citizens of Turkey until 1915. Hrant Dink was a citizen of Turkey. That is not the answer.
The first thing to do is sue the current Turkish government to return ALL the properties held by the Armenian Church in Turkey prior to 1915-1923 priod. Unlike ottoman Turkish citizens of Armenian descent, who left and didn’t return (weren’t allowed to) the Armenian Church never left Turkey. Sure, Turkey will fight it and some nationalistic fools will tear and burn some down, which will work in our favor for more international support.
I agree with Alex in stating that Mko is a but tooo agressive in his response… Instead of putting another ARmenian down you have to support and give hope.. which unfortunately as a community we lack of… Mko it is very hard to say that any Armenian should not demand reparation because every one of us have some sort of connection to the past and our ancestral wealth.. so to say and mock the fact that someone is requesting to be paid whether or not they were directly impacted by the Genocide is wrong… They are the descendent of those who perished and they are entitled to demand justice and why not reparation to not only individuals but as a nation…
I may be wrong but that is how I feel about it..no matter how hard it may be.. we can’t stop and not fight for it…can’t give up…not this time…
God Bless
G
Just like typical Armenians to say “gimme, gimme”. I am a victim and am owed something. But come the time to take action they cower in their cellars lest they nbe labelled trouble-makers. Where were your vaulted political parties all these years and what are they doing today to galvanize Armenians around a list of deamnds from Turkey? You can’t expect the world to take you seriously without having some degree of clout behind you. And what clout do we represent? Next to nothing. Armenia continues to be drained of population and resources while the diaspora goes on its merry lobbying crusade for another few decades. This is the real politics of defeatism. Talk about a peasant mentality…