YEREVAN—Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan reaffirmed his administration’s interest in unblocking regional transport routes during a press conference in Yerevan on Wednesday, signaling cautious openness to new infrastructure projects with Azerbaijan. However, the government’s messaging on how such corridors might function—particularly under foreign involvement—remains contradictory and opaque.
“Armenia is interested in the unblocking of transport infrastructure in the region, including routes from Armenia through Azerbaijani territory and from Azerbaijan through Armenia,” Pashinyan stated. “We have always envisioned and will continue to envision these processes strictly within the framework of Armenia’s territorial integrity, sovereignty and jurisdiction.”
Pashinyan cited current examples of outsourced infrastructure management—including Armenia’s railway network, Zvartnots International Airport and national water systems—as proof that the country already uses third-party management under legal lease agreements while maintaining state ownership. These, he said, are executed through Armenia’s “construction rights” law, ensuring that all infrastructure ultimately remains public property.
Pashinyan’s remarks follow a striking proposal from the United States to lease and manage a 32-kilometer corridor connecting mainland Azerbaijan to Nakhichevan via Armenia’s Syunik province for 100 years.
U.S. Ambassador to Turkey Tom Barrak confirmed the offer last week, noting that a private American logistics firm could operate the corridor as a neutral guarantor, allowing secure and transparent cross-border transit for all sides.
“They’re arguing over 32 kilometers of road, but it’s not a trivial matter,” Barrak told Middle East Eye. “Now, America intervenes and says, ‘Okay, we’ll take it. Let us lease 32 kilometers of road for 100 years, and you can all use it.’”
The proposal echoes elements of a report by the Carnegie Endowment, which noted that the idea originally emerged from European Union discussions and was later backed by Turkey. The report emphasized international precedent for such arrangements in the South Caucasus and outlined the idea of mutual oversight without infringing on sovereignty.
But Pashinyan’s statements are complicated by remarks from his own administration that appear to push back against any suggestion of ceding control. In a formal response to Armenpress, Prime Ministerial spokesperson Nazeli Baghdasaryan flatly denied that Armenia was negotiating or would ever consider transferring control of sovereign territory to any third party.
“The Republic of Armenia has not discussed—and is not discussing—the transfer of control over its sovereign territory,” Baghdasaryan said. “The vocabulary used by the U.S. ambassador is unacceptable. Armenia discusses the unblocking of infrastructure solely within the context of its sovereignty, territorial integrity and jurisdiction.”
She added that Armenia’s legislation permits only leasing of agricultural lands, and therefore, the American proposal was “legally impossible.” When asked whether the ambassador might have meant a management or outsourcing model rather than full lease, Baghdasaryan reiterated that “no part of the territory of the Republic of Armenia may fall outside its jurisdiction.”
Despite this hardline stance, more flexibility emerged in Abu Dhabi just days earlier, during a bilateral meeting between Pashinyan and Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev as part of ongoing peace negotiations. Following that meeting, Armenian Deputy Foreign Minister Mnatsakan Safaryan made a striking admission: Armenia is not opposed to outsourcing the management of the Syunik transport route—provided certain principles are upheld.
“Armenia is not against delegating management of the Syunik road, as long as our declared principles are respected,” Safaryan told Azatutyun. He clarified that any such arrangement must operate fully within Armenia’s sovereignty, jurisdiction and territorial integrity. “If those principles are upheld, yes—such an arrangement is possible.”
Asked whether a third-party company could oversee the route, Safaryan responded cautiously: “Supervision is the wrong term because it implies a loss of sovereignty. But if the process is implemented entirely under Armenian jurisdiction and meets the criteria of reciprocity, it could be discussed.”
Safaryan also confirmed that Armenia had received several proposals—including the American one—though he declined to specify the timeline or sources. “These proposals are under review. Whether they move forward depends entirely on whether they align with Armenia’s national interests,” he said.
The Abu Dhabi meeting was attended by Armenia’s Deputy Prime Minister Mher Grigoryan and his Azerbaijani counterpart Shahin Mustafayev, fueling speculation that corridor arrangements and broader unblocking issues are now central to the peace talks.
Former Armenian Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian has publicly claimed that Pashinyan has agreed to the so-called “corridor” project through Syunik province, a proposal long pushed by Azerbaijan. This initiative would effectively place a segment of Armenian sovereign territory under foreign—or external—control, a move Oskanian describes as a “serious strategic and political concession” that directly threatens Armenia’s territorial integrity. He warns that this could further destabilize the already fragile foundations of the Armenian state.
Political analyst and Azerbaijan expert Tatevik Hayrapetyan echoed similar concerns in a recent Telegram post, highlighting what she sees as a deeply problematic narrative. According to Hayrapetyan, characterizing Armenian territory—specifically, the 29,743 square kilometers internationally recognized as Armenia—as “disputed” or subject to negotiation sets a dangerous precedent.
“For five years, government propaganda has insisted that by relinquishing Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh), Armenia was elevating its sovereignty,” Hayrapetyan wrote. “Now, under the same pretense of sovereignty, a road through Syunik—unquestionably our land—is being labeled a matter of dispute.”
She also questioned whether the Armenian Ministry of Foreign Affairs would dare to publicly confront U.S. officials on this issue, especially when such language contradicts the spirit and letter of the Armenia–U.S. Strategic Partnership Charter signed on January 14, 2025, which commits both sides to supporting each other’s sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity.
“The reality is stark,” she wrote. “The so-called ‘sovereignists’ have endangered Syunik, turning it into a focal point for geopolitical power struggles—all while failing to understand that Artsakh, which they dismissed as a burden, was in fact Syunik’s protective shield.”
Following the Abu Dhabi meeting, Pashinyan traveled to Brussels and Paris in what observers believe is an effort to secure European backing for the contentious deal. Yet, critics argue that no amount of diplomatic smiles or carefully staged photo ops can disguise the fundamental nature of the agreement.
“This is not a bold peace initiative,” Oskanian wrote. “It is a calculated political move aimed at securing a peace deal with Azerbaijan ahead of the 2026 elections—at any cost.”
Oskanian claims Pashinyan’s motivation is neither visionary nor principled but deeply personal and politically driven. He accuses the prime minister of sacrificing not only territory, but also justice, dignity and national memory for the sake of a short-term political win.
“What he calls ‘peace’ is not a diplomatic achievement, but the formalization of a national failure—a failure to protect Artsakh, a failure to protect Armenian lives and a failure to uphold national interests,” Oskanian stated.
Even if the proposed deal provides a brief period of calm, he warns it cannot offset the profound territorial, human and moral losses Armenia has already endured under Pashinyan’s leadership.
“Over the past seven years, Pashinyan has overseen what is arguably the greatest national disaster in Armenia’s modern history. Under his leadership, the country has not only lost land, but also strategic depth, international standing and internal confidence.”





I hope the pro-Western Armenians hang their heads in shame!
This is what kowtowing to the West leads to – Armenia reduced to a client state of America!
No!
If Armenia were ever to agree to an access route through Syunik, it must be under the strict condition that it is fully under Armenian sovereignty, ie, only Armenian flags and Custom Officers allowed.
Anything less is a betrayal.
Every Armenian must understand that the West is no friend of Armenia.
They will always prefer the Turks.
Don’t you miss the golden days of how Armenia was prospering following the collapse of the Soviet Union when all of the leaders of our nation were pushing the agenda of our “friend” Russia. You know – those roughly 30 years of making life in Armenia better. The years spent addressing poverty, infrastructure, the military. Oh wait. That never happened. The previous regimes did nothing for this long, the alliances we had provided nothing for this long, WHY are you dying to go back to that? Isn’t it obvious we need to chart a different course since the one we had been on for the last 3 decades did nothing for us? It seems the only people pushing to go backwards are the only ones that benefited from the former governments. Most of us didn’t. So it shouldn’t be surprising we’re willing to try anything to get away from blood suckers like you.
Who the heck is this?
I did not write this comment!
Write in your own name – not mine!
Puerile thing to do.
Is it you “Kfeto”, a Turk, stealing my name?
It is, isn’t it?
You’ve been sussed out.
Christ, i have never done such a thing in my life. Stop slandering.
What the US has proposed, is eerily similar to what Russia proposed in the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement, in which Armenia loses control of southernmost Syunik by handing the security of the proposed land corridor to a third country, while retaining sovereignty only on paper. If Pashinyan agrees to this ghastly proposal, it will be like opening Pandora’s Box and this could lead to Armenia’s permanent territorial mutilation, because by handing control of Syunik to a third country, this could become a fait accompli and irreversible, due to the very possible violation of such a treaty by the third countries and especially by Azerbaijan, and due to Armenia’s military disadvantage. Pashinyan could also do the most treacherous thing and give in to Azerbaijan’s imperialist claims, and cede the Syunik land corridor to that dictatorship alltogether. This even more ghastly scenario should not be dismissed.
Remember Kosovo? After Serbian and Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic capitulated to NATO’s demands after the 1999 Kosovo War, and agreed to withdraw all Yugoslav forces and institutions from the territory, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 1244 on 10 June 1999, which placed Kosovo under the “temporary” administration of the United Nations Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK), under the leadership of a Special Representative of the Secretary General. It also explicitly upheld the existing sovereignty of Serbia over Kosovo, “reaffirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and all other European states, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act. Serbia de facto lost control of Kosovo, but Kosovo is de jure still part of Serbia, under this UN Resolution, the Helsinki Final Act and under Article 2(4) of the UN Charter on the inviolability of the territorial integrity of a state. The UN Resolution, the Helsinki Final Act and the UN Charter were ultimately and deliberately violated by the Western powers led by the US, who encouraged Kosovo to unilaterally and thus illegally declare its independence on 17 February 2008. It just shows the hypocrisy and duplicity of these self-righteous Western powers who love to preach morality.
If Pashinyan indeed does the most despicable thing by agreeing to the cession of Syunik in one form or the other, this is the outcome awaiting Armenia.
I don’t see in what way was Kosovo’s independence illegal? If federal republic of Yugoslavia’s territorial integrity was an issue then how come Croatia is a country? or N Macedonia.
Why did you bring up Kosovo anyway, what is its relevance here?
Kosovo was a province of the Yugoslavian constituent republic of Serbia. Bit like N K was a region of Azerbaijan SSR in the Soviet Union . The difference is that the USA felt compelled to use it’s alliance NATO to attack Serbia to wrest away what was internationally recognised as part of Serbia. The other difference is that the USA was to Kosovo what many Armenians had fantasized in their reverence about Russia but the reality couldn’t be more different…
Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was an artificial entity created after WWII with dubious internal borders. Sort of similar to USSR created after WWI. Yes, Kosovo was formally inside Serbia, but who drew those borders?
@reader
It was the communist dictator of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Josip Broz Tito, who drew the internal borders of Yugoslavia and decided that the region of Kosovo, while part of the Socialist Republic of Serbia, was to have wide-ranging autonomy as the “Autonomous Province of Kosovo” within Serbia, but not the right to secede from Serbia or to secede from Yugoslavia. Only a Socialist Republic (Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Croatia), which was the highest territorial unit within Yugoslavia, had the right to secede from Yugoslavia according to the Yugoslav Constitution. Resolution 1244 of the UN Security Council in 1999 took the territorial inviolability of Serbia into account, but which was violated by the Western powers led by the US, when they illegally tore Kosovo from Serbia in 2008.
Armenia without Syunik doesn’t bear thinking about.
It means vassalage, subservience, humiliation and servility.
As it’s within Armenia it should be managed by Armenia or at least at the behest of Armenia. What was proposed in 2020 by Russia was an appalling subjugation of a legal ally. There should be no access for Azerbaijan without normalised relationship namely diplomatic relations and Embassies opened and ambassadors exchanged. To allow such without would be adverse and erregegrious . Given the contentious relationship between the USA and Iran an American company would likely spy on Iran although would be more ambivalent given the limited interest the USA has in the south Caucasus. Russia having failed to protect what was left of Artaskh and it own difficulties with Armenia and now also Azerbaijan! along with its preoccupations in Ukraine is a discredited partner.
Indeed for Russia to have concurrently fallen out with Armenia and Azerbaijan is an extraordinary failure on its part
The ChatGPT doesn’t make you sound smarter. It makes you sound ridiculous.
For goodness sakes, this is not my comment.
Turkey’s boss is also America.
Entire Western Civilization is about Gays and Lesbians. Thats why they rule the World.
What did Russia invent in the last 200 Years? Do they have 10% of Swedish Science?
God bless America and Democracy. The billions spent on NGOs to tame third world aboriginals is at least paying off in some countries.
Let’s never forget that Mr. Pashinyan represents the democratic will of the Armenian people. Armenia is now a “Westernized” country with “European” aspirations. Always remember that. Therefore, let’s please show the duly-elected leader of Armenia some respect, as he is the Western-financed and Turkish-led political activist a clear majority of our people, both in the homeland and in the diaspora, wanted to lead Armenia not only in 2018 but also in 2020, 2021 and 2023. In 2024, Bishop Bagratyan finally proved that the Armenian people don’t want change. So be it. Let’s respect the “democratic” wish of the masses.
If you believe in “people power”, “democracy”, “westernization” and “the American way”, stop your constant complaining and start supporting Mr. Pashinyan in his historic mission to turn Armenia into a Turkish/Azeri Vilayet. We are finally breaking free from Russia. After 30 years of trying, American-Armenians finally got their wish. Congratulations. Let’s now all enjoy the consequences.
PS: I would really like to see Russia cut-off all financial, economic and energy ties with Armenia (the only thing keeping the remote, landlocked and impoverished nation afloat) and take its troops stationed on Armenia’s border with Turkey (the only thing keeping NATO-member Turkey out of Armenia) back to Russia. Sometimes you just have to let a terminally ill patient die (a la Kevorkian)…
Where did the last 30 years of post Soviet Russian influence get us? 30 years of oligarch funding, parliament massacres, absolute abandonment during attacks even the ones on internationally recognized Armenian lands. Where was Russia then? And you want to take us back? You obviously have a benefit to the old regime. If we’re going to make alliances for our future, why would we stick to a dying super power when they can’t even roll through Ukraine when it’s right next to it. And if you’re going to say NATO is supporting them then you better believe we’re looking for the same. Russia has a collapsed economy, collapsed military and other than the old heads who benefited under their rule, nobody wants to be tied to Russia going forward. So Russian Armenian sellout, the question is why you still think Russia is the answer. They just turned their backs on us not too long ago. We haven’t forgotten.
Mr Pashinyan is obsessed with normalizing Armenia relation with Turkey and her puppet state in Baku by any cost. Armenia is not going to benefit as such by pleasing her two natural enemies, instead Armenia can benefit by expanding her relation with European union through Georgia. Even if Pashinyan accepts US proposal(which talks about Zanegzor corridor and this term is detrimental to Armenian identity), this does not stop Baku government to talk about west Azerbaijan? It means there is no peace deal with Baku and therefore no hope of normalizing relation with Turkey and no border opening either! Turkey and Baku needs peace deal with Armenia in order to improve their status among European union!
Sqme lame methodical. Don’t want to acknowledge we lost the war – don’t want to acknowledge the corrupt responsibility of the leadership for decades dismantled the country – don’t want to acknowledge the consistent back stabbing if russia.
Just good at shouting traitor …
look at some of the comments above…what did the russians do as peacekeepers or as having a base simply nothing just agreeing with turks.
The PM is doing great and hope they will take this for 200 years and this is strategically best for armenia rather your fake nationalistic blurbs
The article above paints a dark, emotionally charged picture of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan’s regional transport agenda—one laced with accusations of betrayal, territorial surrender, and political opportunism. But it deliberately distorts the facts, misrepresents Armenia’s constitutional safeguards, and ignores the strategic realities our nation faces.
Let’s be clear: there is no corridor, there is no ceding of land, and there is no erosion of sovereignty. The notion that Armenia is surrendering Syunik to foreign or Azerbaijani control is not only false—it’s irresponsible fearmongering.
Infrastructure does not equal occupation.
Outsourcing infrastructure management is not a new or dangerous precedent—it’s standard practice. Zvartnots Airport is run by a foreign company. Our water systems and railways too. These arrangements were made under Armenia’s legal framework, and they never compromised our sovereignty or jurisdiction. If anything, they allowed Armenia to benefit from international expertise while retaining full ownership. Why is it suddenly “treason” when the same model is applied to a road?
A lease for management is not a lease of land. And yet, critics knowingly conflate the two to stir public fear. No land is being transferred. No flags are being lowered.
Sovereignty is being defended by this policy, not sacrificed.
The government has said—repeatedly—that any route through Armenian territory must function under full Armenian law, Armenian police, and Armenian customs. If foreign companies help operate it logistically, so be it. That doesn’t make it foreign land. And if Armenia maintains oversight, what exactly is the threat?
What’s more, Pashinyan’s administration has already rejected the language used by the U.S. ambassador. The Prime Minister’s office clarified that the term “lease” does not apply to land or sovereignty—period. Armenia isn’t “selling out.” It’s asserting its legal red lines.
The fear around Syunik ignores the regional and historical context.
The idea that Syunik is being turned into a “corridor” forgets one critical fact: Syunik is still Armenia, and will remain so. The proposed transport route would enable both Armenia and Azerbaijan to access each other’s markets. But under what conditions? Under Armenian sovereignty, with reciprocity—which means Armenia gets access to Azerbaijani territory as well.
If we reject this out of hand because of paranoia, what’s the alternative? Continued isolation? Blockades? Economic suffocation? Missing out on regional economic opportunities and projects? These are the very tools Azerbaijan has used to strangle Armenia’s opportunities. Why would we voluntarily chain ourselves to that future?
Criticism from former officials is politically motivated and selective.
Vartan Oskanian’s rebuke of the government is drenched in political nostalgia and thinly veiled self-interest. When he was foreign minister, we saw missed opportunities, rigidity, and the very international isolation that cost Armenia dearly in 2020. Now, from the safety of the sidelines, he demands that today’s government play with the same outdated rulebook that already failed us.
And let’s not romanticize the past. Clinging to Artsakh as a protective shield didn’t prevent war. What it did was invite prolonged bloodshed with no international backing, no legal foundation, and no sustainable path forward. Armenia lost thousands of lives in a conflict it was ill-prepared to win—because we believed slogans, not strategy. No regional or global power was prepared to recognise Artsakh as part of Armenia, not even Russia or Iran. Did we forget that successive Armenian governments also failed to recognise the independence of Artsakh or incorporate it into Armenia proper despite Armenians decisively winning the first Artsakh war.
This is about long-term peace, not short-term politics.
The article claims that Pashinyan is chasing a “short-term win” before the 2026 elections. But if this were just a stunt, why involve multiple international guarantors? Why insist on reciprocity and jurisdictional integrity? Why spend years negotiating it in peace talks with global visibility?
The truth is, this isn’t about elections. It’s about changing course. For the first time in decades, Armenia has the chance to break out of geopolitical isolation, develop trade routes, diversify its economy, and secure peace through hard diplomacy, not slogans or hero worship.
No one is saying this process is easy. No one denies the trauma of lost wars or the complexity of regional dynamics. But leadership isn’t about clinging to the past—it’s about navigating painful realities for the sake of a better future.
So let’s have the debate, but let’s do it honestly. Let’s not weaponize fear. Let’s not label pragmatism as treason. And let’s not forget: the only way Syunik is truly endangered is if we trap it in the past and refuse to imagine what a peaceful, prosperous Armenia might look like tomorrow.
In the globalised world, foreign companies owning national assets in other countries is increasingly commonplace.
Also the inconvenient truth the anti Pashinyan crowd prefer to ignore Armenia for various reasons never recognised Artaskh as independent nor incorporated into Armenia. For practical purposes it integrated but legally nothing of the sort. Also the complete lack of foreign legal support for Armenian Artaskh all along is conveniently ignored by the anti Pashinyan crowd as if as the cause was flourishing , when it was discussed in the UN four times it called on Armenia to withdraw, this seems perhaps due to the lack of international pressure be ignore , whilst people might have been getting along just fine and more concerned about the banal. Azerbaijan was steadily gaining in strength to reverse the defeat of 1994 and thus it was actually precarious and on borrowed time.
The thing that irritates me is that the important question is not whether you are for or against Pashinyan, the important question is are you for or against Armenia. I’m not in his shoes so I can’t speak to the level of stress he’s under but some of his public comments as of late have been very distasteful and allow the narrative of his behavior overshadow his factually pragmatic approach to foreign policy. We can accept we are right and the world wronged us. Let’s not lose that belief. But we shouldn’t be paralyzed in trauma and stop building for our future. The enemy is not stopping. They have been building with the purpose to take over our lands for centuries. Iran, who we have friendly relations with now, how many centuries did we have wars with them? Through changing geopolitics, they are now an ally. Im sure they don’t trust us. I’m sure many of you don’t trust them. But for our benefit we work with them. Why can’t we take the same pragmatic approach with the surrounding nations and get precious resources and money into Armenia so we can grow. Being land locked has made us reliant on Russia and now they are using that reliance as a handcuff. We need to make money and call our own shots and I’m glad we’re finally seeing an avenue for that. Traditionally, our placement in the original Silk Road brought us great prosperity and influenced our bartering and merchant skills. Losing access to that is chocking us out. We need to reclaim that.
@T1989
You are correct. Based on what you are saying, Pashinyan is a hero. He gave up Artsakh, allowed Syunik to be occupied, treats Artsakh refugees like crap, always respects Turks, is on a path to destroy the Armenian church, and just recently told the Diaspora to buzz off.
Seems he is a hero for Turks, and seems like you are a Turk nationalist. Nice try…
I guess reading comprehension wasn’t your thing growing up.
He gave up Artsakh. Really? The missles and drones flying in were imaginary to you? It was a war. Someone attacked us. We were unable to stop it. They took over. Our friends stood by and even worse it came to light that they supplied the enemy with advanced weaponry. Where is your outrage at that?
Syunik is the one avenue we have to make money as a land locked nation and all you do is throw around insults and offer NOTHING else.
It’s really funny the berutsi diaspora has a fetish for seeing themselves as some ancient Armenian warriors yet all they do is collect money and donate it to their other pocket and then give themselves pats on the back. Why didn’t you stop the attacks on Artsakh? Why didn’t you invent streams of revenue to better the standard for Armenians living IN Armenia. Living in your la crescenta houses, going to your private schools and you think you have a right to tell Armenians from Armenia what to do.
I guess facts escape you… Not sending military reinforcements to Artsakh; Treating Artsakh refugees like crap; giving up sovereignty to Syunik; breaking relations with Iran; and then being the first to recognize Artsakh as part of Azerbaijian.
Looks like the professional turkish jihadis are coming out in full force to defend their pashinoglu hero before he does things more devastating to Armenia
What are you talking about? Sending what military reinforcements? Do you seriously think anything we did at that moment would have erased the 30 years of knife sharpening the enemy had already done? You are a moron.
We still have Syunik so I don’t know what kind of delusional hysteria you are pushing; but again, you are a moron.
Soviet Union gifted our lands to the enemy and they have international recognition since the 90’s. Since the 90’s. No Armenian regime before the current one even tried saying Artsakh is Armenia. This one did. Like a moron. And it become a catalyst for war. War we lost a long time ago by doing the same things over and over again. Your brain is less than an inch deep because the second someone says something you don’t like, automatically they are a turk.
Pashinyan is doing exactly what he has always wanted to do. His articles spanning 20-plus years bare witness to this. Pashinyan was a Western/Turkish agent from day one. Because Armenians are a gullible and politically illiterate bunch with an undying fetish for the Western lifestyle, Westerners, Turks and Israelis were able to bring Pashinyan to power. It was done in order to weaken Russia’s and Iran’s position in the south Caucasus. Russians and Iranians have been tolerating Pashinyan because they were and still are busy fighting off Western aggression.
Thank God, times are finally changing. Russia has all but defeated NATO backed Ukraine and Iran was able to withstand the US and Israeli onslaught against it. What does not kill you makes you stronger. Russia and Iran are stronger today. Azerbaijan’s dangerous games may have have finally broken the camels back, so to speak. Baku is now on Moscow’s and Tehran’s shit list. As soon as Russians and Iranians turn their attention back to the south Caucasus, Nikol’s nightmarish reign will come to an end. And that’s when all the pro-Nikol and anti-Russian cyber warriors populating social media today will quietly disappear…
Which one of Iran or Russia stopped Artsakh from being attacked. Cmon tell us.
Artsakh was our responsibility. It’s like you not wanting to protect your home, and when your home gets robbed, you blame your neighbors. Russia and Iran never said they will project Artsakh. Your Nikol wanted to abandon Artsakh as far back as the year 2000. You professional Russophobes are lame. Try again…
Iran sure didn’t have a responsibility but Russia did. They failed to protect internationally recognized Armenian territories despite their obligations to do so. And even worse, they stood by and allowed Belarus to sell advanced weaponry to Armenia’s enemy to be used directly against Armenia. And at the end say azeri president is “their guy”. For over 30 years after the Soviet Union, Russian influences dominated Armenia and we have nothing but poverty to show for it. For once we’re moving away from a known dead end path and blood suckers like you are dying to take us backwards and I’m sure it’s because you are either Russian or you have some financial incentive to keep things the same. Always out for yourselves over the benefit of the majority. Never mind, you actually remind me of a real Armenian for that one.
Excellent at playing mental gymnastics – Russians had a responsibility to help Artsakh, but Nikol’s Armenia had zero obligations…
Russian influence ceased the day Nikol came to power…
T1989 – you are a turkish jihadi
They had a responsibility to protect mainland Armenia which they didn’t. I didn’t say anything about Artsahk. Stop with the misdirection. You’re the one playing mental gymnastics and the only person you are impressing is yourself. The turks can suck me off and so can you you backwards piece of shit. Your parents were born in a muslim country I was born in Armenia we are not the same you can’t speak to me about my home country
You professional Russphobes are only good at regurgitating talking points written in Washington, London, Ankara and Tel Aviv.
As a consequence of the first war in the early 1990s, Armenia’s border with Azerbaijan was not demarcated and is therefore not officially recognized by Moscow. However, Armenia’s border with Turkey has been officially recognized by Moscow since the 1920s. Russia had the official obligation to keep Turks on their side of the Arax river but had no obligations in Artsakh. It was Armenia that had the official obligation to defend Artsakh. This, in a nutshell, is why Pashinyan was brought to power in 2018 by Western, Turkish and most probably Israeli intelligence services. Moscow did not intervene because the war against NATO backed Ukraine was fast approaching it could not extend itself. With the war against NATO coming, Moscow also needed Turks and Azeris to stay out of the war. Moscow basically cutting its losses by taking a step back from Armenia.
In such geopolitical landscape, if Armenia was not interested in defending Artsakh, why would Russia? Moreover, it was Turkish and Israeli weapons system that turned the tide of war in Azerbaijan’s favor, not Russian, not Belarusian.
PS: The bloodsuckers are you and your kind. You would sell your mother for a pack of cigarettes.
It seems that Turk lover is the favourite catch all smear.
Russia never pledged support for Artaskh only for Armenia as per the boundaries of Armenian SSR as like other SSR subsequently international boundaries as agreed to by the members of the Soviet Union as the superstate faced disintegration. With the 2020 ceasefire Russia served as a third party guarantor but didn’t stop the blockade and subsequent attack on what was left of Artaskh and lost much of its reputation and respect by many Armenians in the process. Also encroachment into Armenia itself was ignored by the Russian led CTSO further destroying Russia reputation.
Seperatley it’s attack on Ukraine debunked inflated claims of Russian capacity and it’s claimed annexations of parts of Ukraine exposed gross hypocrisy vis a vis it’s recent condemnation of Armenian control of Artaskh and parts of internationally recognised Azerbaijan and sneering that Armenia had no case since it didn’t even recognise Artaskh as independent. Along with its war effort in Ukraine clearly taking its priorities.
Pashinyan seems to have goaded with Artaskh is ours comments which previous leaders baulked at claiming even popularly felt, allowing settlers into areas outside of former soviet NK, along with commemoration of the unratified and subsequently nullified treaty of serves, either was very haughty or deliberately bringing on disaster. Although the shift in favour of Azerbaijan and Russia and CTSO members selling weapons or expressing support for non member Azerbaijan can’t be ignored either.
Sir Charlie,
I see you are still at it with your blatant lies and self serving half truths. I suggest you worry about your Londonistan and pedophile royals. You professional Russophobes are a pathetic yet relentless bunch.
Gurgen your service of the Kremlin even to the extent of being happy to see Armenia overrun.
As for Londonistan , yes indeed it’s why commemoration of WW2 is evermore farcical and there’s a gradual realisation of this and the average person faith in the system is collapsing. The volunteering rate for the military is now so low that a form of national service is being considered. Paedophile royals, prince Andrew whom king Charles a suspect Muslim is disgraced and relegated and won’t be lobbying for Azerbaijan anymore either and support for the monarchy is collapsing. There’s a general feeling that the country is in for a violent reckoning even if Russia doesn’t attack. Indeed the Azeri attack on Artaskh which was a violent collapse of the status quo locally and perhaps marked the beginnings of an era of violent reckoning and reshaping of countries although at the time it seemed an aberration.
Charles, I see you back online. Don’t worry, I’m taking care of business. ;-)
What was the race and religion of Stalin and Marx, the main architects of giving away parts of Eastetn Armenia?
What were the religious percentages of the Bolsheviks?
Hint – they share the same religion as Anna Hakobyan(stein)
@ZioBuster
Stalin was an ethnic Georgian and he was nominally a member of the Georgian Orthodox Church, which he renounced and left as a young man after embracing Marxism and atheism. Stalin was not of Jewish descent, but he was actually an anti-Semite.
Karl Marx, while originally Jewish, rejected and denounced all religions (including Judaism) and the belief in deities as the “opium of the people”. He was a philosopher, political theorist, economist, journalist and politician, but not a leader of Germany or of any other country; and he was certainly not responsible for dividing and shrinking Armenia to its current borders and size in 1921, because he died in 1883 and he might not have even heard of Armenia and Armenians. None of his works mention Armenia and Armenians.
Those responsible for dividing and reducing Armenia’s territory, were Mustafa Kemal (Ataturk) of Turkey and Vladimir Lenin of Russia (later the Soviet Union) with the Treaty of Kars in 1921. Stalin was not powerful then, while Lenin was alive and still healthy at that time. Stalin became powerful, after Lenin was incapacitated by strokes in 1923, which ultimately killed him in 1924. Stalin didn’t change the borders of Armenia and Azerbaijan within the Soviet Union, even when he became a very powerful dictator.
Many Bolsheviks were born Jewish (and Lenin had Jewish ancestry too), but the vast majority were not, and there were also many Armenian, Azeri, Georgian Bolsheviks, among the many nationalities, and the Jewish Bolsheviks denounced Judaism and Zionism, like Bolsheviks denounced religion and nationalism generally, and persecuted religious people of all faiths and nationalists brutally.
Anna Hakobyan, while as provocative, repulsive and traitorous as her husband Pashinyan, is not Jewish.
Don’t despair. The current regime in Armenia will be gone soon and so will Aliyev. None of these will matter.
@Vahe
I very much hope so, but if Pashinyan becomes a full dictator like Ilham Aliyev (who has been the dictator of Azerbaijan since 2003, after his dying father Heydar passed the presidency to him in a monarchical fashion), I am afraid that he could rule Armenia for decades. This is unfortunately an entirely plausible scenario, and looking how Armenia’s three neighbors have been dictatorships for decades ruled by dictators for decades (Aliyev since 2003, Erdogan since 2003, and Khamenei since 1989), this could also happen to Armenia if Pashinyan’s powers continue to increase and continue to be unchecked.
Yugoslavia was actually created in 1920 as kingdom of Serbs Croats and Slovenes and became Yugoslavia in 1929 . Disbanded with the Nazi German invasion of 1941 , reformed with minor territorial gains at Italy’s expense in 1945 founder member of the UN , federated in 1974 the entire entity unravelled in 1991 rump state centered around Serbia declared non existent by the UN continued until disbanded in 2003 . The internal boundaries were largely based on natural features and the historical boundaries between the Hapsburg and Ottoman empire. The irony is that Armenia which had fought for Artaskh but failed to get international support and wouldn’t lose it , wheras Kosovo which was championed most aggressively by the USA and it’s NATO subjects in 1999 may well be recognised by Armenia which already recognises on a conditional level such as sports tournaments and various international bodies.
The surprise is no -one has taken a shot at the prime minister
Vast majority of the Bolshevik leadership, by some accounts 90%, were Jews. Bolshevism before Stalin’s rise to power was primarily an anti-Russian movement. Although our professional Russophobes love talking about “Russian” Bolsheviks giving Armenian lands away, they somehow foget to mention that “Russian Bolsheviks” also gave Russian lands away. Stalin saved both Russia and Armenia.
Lol now they weren’t really Russian they were only bolshevik. If you think we’re “professional russophobes” then you must realize are a professional Russian apologist. I can’t blame you, it pays really good to be on that side. After all, even a poverty stricken nation such as Armenia has billionaires, the only requirement is to put Russian in front of the Armenian. That’s why you guys sold the rest of us out and why you want to continue doing the same. Just like how they killed Vazgen Sarkisyan, now it’s character assassination of Pashinyan for steering Armenia to the West. I don’t care for him personally, I am just supporting him doing things different than we have been since ’91. You guys want to keep us the same. One can only wonder why.
In the radical and fervid years of the initial Bolshevik revolution the ambition was for the world to follow suit not just within the lands of the Russian empire. Hence the Idea of nation states was abhorrent and it was to be a commune of peoples and the utopian system would overcome racial and religious divisions. It became apparent that this decentralised ideology was making state governance more difficult and a single common language was necessary which was obviously going to be Russian. It should also be added the Soviet Union forbade ritual circumcision which was an attack on Jewish and also Muslim practices. The Bolshevik Jews for the most part were not Jewish nationalists and while there was a Zionist aspect, there was also a strong anti Zionist ethos in that seeking a national homeland or enthnostate was against their citizen of the world ideals. For the same reasons signing away western Armenia to Turkey and Artaskh to Azerbaijan was because in their view nation states were dividers of the peoples of world.
Stalin killed millions of Russians in cruel work programs and forced social policies and cared little about Armenia save when tried to agitate for the reclaiming of western Armenia in 1947 from Turkey which only helped Turkey to join NATO and the genocide issue to be ignored and the deportations of Azeris in Armenian SSR at the same time hardened divisions, he could have reassigned Artaskh to Armenian SSR like Soviet Union would later do with Crimea but did nothing of the sort .
Sir Charlie,
Stalin was no angel, but he did save both Russia and Armenia from death. Under men like Lenin and Trotsky, the Bolsheviks abolished all borders, cultures and religions within the territories of the former Russian Empire. They legalized abortion. They wanted to Latinize the Russian alphabet. They also gifted Russian controlled lands to Russia’s enemies. Stalin began reversing all these Bolshevik polices after coming to power. A civil war of sorts was fought between Stalin and the old guard Bolsheviks. Anglo-American-Jewish propaganda calls this civil war “Stalin’s Purges”. Sadly, many died in the stuggle.
Ultimately, Stalin proved God sent. Armenia, which was erased from the map by Bolsheviks, became a full-fledged Soviet republic in 1936, with its own flag, coat of arms, national anthem, church, language, etc. This happened during the height of “Stalin’s purges”.
If you want to read about the real Stalin, I suggest you read the book “Stalin: The Enduring Legacy” by Kelly Bolton. You dont have to tell your handlers about it. Read it in secret. Worried about you, Charlie…