The Hypocrisy of Israel’s Denial of the Armenian Genocide

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A top Israeli diplomat is raising eyebrows after a recent visit to the Armenian Genocide Memorial Complex—Dzidzernagapert.

“The tragedy of the Armenian nation has never been questioned,” said Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Ben-Zvi late last month. “There is a historical question of what to call it, but what has happened is a fact that everyone accepts. It’s not a matter of political discussion. Let historians decide what to call the tragedy.”


The systematic persecution of 1.5 million Armenians at the ruthless hands of the Ottoman Empire between 1915 and 1918 should be referred to as something far more descriptive than “IT.”

Israel, a Jewish country, had its own genocide—the Holocaust. It was the second genocide of the twentieth century. This is a historical fact, and we all accept it. But Israel has chosen to advance politically and economically over the years and has failed to return the gesture. It has since maintained rather strong political and military relations with Turkey, and therefore refuses time and time again to acknowledge another ethnic group’s similar plight, that of the Armenians.

The systematic persecution of 1.5 million Armenians at the ruthless hands of the Ottoman Empire between 1915 and 1918 should be referred to as something far more descriptive than “IT.”

One of history’s most infamous dictators strategically used the denial of the genocide as his main defense. To justify his actions, Adolf Hitler once stated that no one would remember the massacre of the Jews during the Holocaust because no one speaks of the annihilation of the Armenians. Hitler believed he would be able to kill millions of Jews and take away their land without consequences as these tactics had already been “successful” with the Armenians.

During the genocide, America’s ambassador to Turkey—a Jewish man named Henry Morgenthau— confirmed the atrocities. Morgenthau witnessed the murders of our ancestors. He believed the tragedies that befell the Armenians in 1915 were the worst in the history of the human race. He argued that Turkish authorities had given a death warrant to an entire people.

Furthermore, the creator of the Genocide Convention, a Jewish lawyer named Raphael Lemkin, came up with the word “genocide” as a result of the massacres of the Armenians. He followed the Armenian Genocide closely and grieved years later with the death of his own family during the Holocaust. In response to these tragedies, he coined the term “genocide” to represent acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. What’s critical here is that Lemkin labeled the plight of the Armenians as a genocide.

In 2016, the Knesset, Israel’s Parliament, affirmed that it recognized the “Armenian Holocaust” as a genocide. In the same year, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), America’s main Jewish human rights group, did the same, condemning Turkey’s denial of the event. However, despite these rulings by the country’s main legislature and the ADL, the country of Israel itself still has not acknowledged the genocide of the Armenians.

At this moment, twenty eight countries have officially recognized the Armenian Genocide including Canada, France, Italy, and Russia. Despite aiding and abetting the Ottoman Empire during the massacres, Turkey’s former partner in crime, Germany, has also confirmed the inhumane nature of the event. As for Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu keeps delaying a debate on legislation about the Armenian Genocide.

I am sure you share in my disappointment that Israel has failed to take the appropriate and long overdue steps to recognize this dark chapter in our history. With so many organizations and others in the Jewish community recognizing the event, it is extremely troubling that the country itself has yet to do so.

Although I am a fourth generation American, I have always maintained an intimate connection to my Armenian roots. My great-grandparents were orphaned by the Armenian Genocide. It is a disservice and an injustice to my ancestors and yours that their deaths are not appropriately commemorated and acknowledged.

The only way to end the perpetual cycle of genocide is through education and dialogue. If we don’t speak up and speak out, we are allowing more genocides to happen. Just look at Darfur. Look at Syria. It is high time for Israel to call this what “IT” is—a genocide.

Danielle Mikaelian

Danielle Mikaelian

Danielle Mikaelian is in her senior year at Columbia University. She is majoring in English.
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  1. For years Israel had close political, military, tourism, intelligence, trade relations with Turkey. Once Erdogan is gone, Israel and Turkey will once again become allies. In addition, Israel sells billions of dollars worth of weapons’ to Turkey Jr. aka Azerbaijan. These two reasons make Genocide recognition by Israel impossible.

  2. Nicely said. However with all due respect, The Armenian Genocide was the second of the century and the Holocaust the third. The Herero and NAmaqua genocide in South West Africa at the hands of the Germans was the first:

    Also to be precise, the Armenian Genocide should be referred to as the Genocide of Armenians, Pontic Greeks and Assyrians (Or “Syfo). Close to 3 million people perishe din Anaolia between 1915-1923.

    • I agree with Atamian. It should be the “Genocide of Armenians”. People unfamiliar with the genocide of Armenians might think “Armenian Genocide” means we perpetrated the 1915-1922 genocide. As well, I don’t see why it’s referred to as the “first genocide of the 20th century”. There’s no competition for being the first or the latest genocide. It’s a fact that the genocide of the Herero by the Germans was earlier. Thus the Germans had participated in two genocides (Herero and Armenian) before launching the genocides of several European nations.

  3. Agree with the article and comments. Here are some additional observations:
    – Israel has been amoral. The only consideration they have is their survival. They have no principles or moral compass.

    – Israel will sell arms and military technical advice to whoever can pay. In the case of Azerbaijan, there are no strategic considerations other than money; historically there are no connections between Israel and Azerbaijan.

    – Israel and Jewish organizations have been milking Germany of billions of dollars as reparations. They fear and are falsely concerned that if the Genocide is recognized, the gravity of the holocaust will be diminished and will dry up the cash cow.

    – Israel follows the US policy. As long as Turkey is part of NATO, and NATO’s biggest and most important military base is in Inverlik Turkey, it is not conceivable that the US, Israel and the UK recognize the Genocide. This is a sad reality.
    – Recognition of the Genocide is important but not crucial. The Genocide is an undeniable, proven, documented,and beyond any doubt, a fact. What is more crucial that can change the dynamics and the paradigm is Reparations. What is needed are experienced and highly reputable lawyers that can make our case in courts that are deemed to be neutral and just; this will garner the exposure we need and hit their pockets.

    That is why, every Armenian within his means should support the Armenian Center for Legal Justice. There is a lot of work to be done but it needs support, both morally and financially.

    Vart Adjemian

    • I would go beyond what Vart and say that Israeli foreign policy has always been immoral.
      Israel has armed and trained far-right dictatorships in Latin America and Africa. It was a secret ally of apartheid South Africa and worked with that racist country to develop nuclear bombs. There’s evidence that Israel tested its nuclear bomb in the South Atlantic off South Africa. These days, Israel secretly works with the corrupt medieval kingdom of Saudi Arabia. It also helps the murderous ISIS so as to bring down Assad. Of course, the above list is not even remotely comprehensive.

  4. In regards to the “first genocide of the 20th century”, we have had this argument here before, and I am tired of seeing the same old claims on these pages over and over with people bringing their “research” from wikipedia without doing any critical thinking. So I am once again forced to present this case.

    I don’t accept that the “Herero and Namaqua genocide” was an actual ‘genocide’. There are far greater forces at play here than you wikipedia warriors on this page realize, thus you are the “useful idiots” for their cause, which just happens to be an anti-Armenian plot. Why? For two very simple reasons: 1. The ‘special status’ of the Armenian Genocide as the “first of the century” gets deleted. 2. The Holocaust story gets promoted and strengthened at the expense of number 1. Thus, the Armenian Genocide becomes “just another genocide”, but the so-called “uniqueness” of the Holocaust remains. And as we continue on this dangerous path, giving it some time, soon the Armenian Genocide will even take a back seat to this claimed ‘genocide’.

    Now allow me to go into a bit of history, admittedly based on my limited reading of the incident, but nevertheless I am convinced of my conclusion. What happened in regards to the H & N peoples was a heinous crime. Genocide? No. As far as I can tell there is no proof that the ‘German Government’ decided to “destroy a people in whole or in part” – premeditated and deliberately. If there is any proof, I would gladly revisit my opinion.

    In fact, the German general in charge made his own criminal decision without consultation with the German Government. When news actually reached the German Government, they actually ordered the general to stop, keeping in mind that at that time, communication was quite slow by today’s standards. In this regard maybe the German Government should be commended instead of being charged with ‘genocide’. The German general’s criminal response was simply his decision at the way their imperialist subjects were attempting to reject their rule. This was an imperialist crime, no different than the ones carried out by the UK and France on other peoples.

    Despite the violent, and militaristic nature of Germany a century ago, and in defense of TODAY’S Germany, what it looks like is that since Germany lost both world wars, it seems pretty safe to pile on all the genocides on her by everyone who wishes to have their own “genocide”.

    This all amounts to False Witness against Germany. And Germans are today a subjugated and defeated people who cannot even attempt to defend themselves by honestly reviewing and telling their history. And if they do try, the main weapon against them is always at the ready: “You are a Nazi” – the biggest fear of a German.

    Also, I don’t believe that “Germany has accepted her crimes of committing genocide” legally on this matter, even if they are using that term. That is why this topic is still being debated there it seems, unlike the Holocaust, and I suspect their relationship with the Holocaust Industry is what prevents them from denying outright that what happened was a ‘genocide’ because then that would make them “look like Nazis”. But Germany does feel responsible nevertheless, so they agreed to help the people by giving ‘aid’ – and I don’t believe they call it ‘reparations’.

    A final word about “the first genocide”. Let us assume that the “Herero and Namaqua genocide” was actually a ‘genocide’. Fact: the term ‘genocide’ and legal definition was brought forth based on what happened to the Armenians and NOT the Herero and Namaqua. Thus, the Armenian Genocide can STILL be considered the “first genocide of the 20th century”. At the very least, the Armenian Genocide would have the special status as having started the process by which genocides are recognized and dealt with. This means, the ‘first’ to bring recognition of genocide is “the first” – and it happens to be in the 20th century. So the “first genocide of the 20th century” is NOT about the date, but about the start of the process of recognition. Thus, the author is correct, and the posters above are wrong with their claim, regardless.

  5. The most obvious yet least talked about reason they don’t recognize the Genocide is because their forefathers created and funded The Young Turks. The Ottoman Empire was dismantled by Zionists claiming to be Turkish revolutionists. This is not a conspiracy. Many of the Young Turks were also Donmehs, which literally means Jews acting as Turks. Here are a few of them: Tekin Alp, Emmanuel Carasso Efendi, Mehmet Cavit Bey, all prominent members of the Young Turks.

  6. Congratulations to Ms. Mikaelian and the Armenian Weekly for this fine article.

    The following commentary by the Armenian Americans for Human Rights organization discusses the Armenian Genocide-denying history of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) as well as the ADL’s being the very opposite of the civil and human rights group it claims to be.

    “No to the Anti-Defamation League in Glendale and Elsewhere”:

  7. So an Israeli official goes to Armenia, visits the Armenian Genocide monument and proceeds to insult the Armenian nation and victims of the Genocide by spewing Turkish denialist venom.

    OK. So were there any consequences? The answer is no, therefore it is the fault of us Armenians who allow this to happen, and in particular the wussy Armenian Government, who, since 1991 has been scared of its own shadow in dealing with such snakes on the international scene.

    Here was another missed opportunity to make an example of this Israeli snake and send a clear message to his ilk, and of course, no one there cares enough, or is intelligent enough, or competent enough to do anything about it. That snake should have immediately been EXPELLED from Armenia and been told never to return, and make the whole incident at the national level and in the news. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

    • You are like the other people commenting on this article, anti-Semitic. You take a simple thing said by someone, and you decide to create a whole new meaning and you use it as justification to condemn a race of people. Actually learn about the topic by which you speak before you say anything.

  8. Should Israel decide to strike Iranian’s nuclear program, the pilots would have to travel 1000 miles one way in order to reach Iranian airspace, not to mention the danger the pilots would have to encounter. Common sense dictates, by signing a military agreement with Azeris, the Israelis would have an airbase right at the backyard of Iran, where launching air strikes would be easier and very convenient. Therefore,not recognizing the Armenian Genocide, is a logical step for the Israeli government, since it would upset both Turkey and their younger brother Azerbaijan,also, not being able to reach a military agreement.

  9. I love Israel, and I believe Israel should call the Armenian genocide what it was: genocide. Turkey will be angry, but Erdogen falsely accuses Israel of genocide, so the least Israel can do to return the favor is to publicly acknowledge the historical fact of what Turks did to Armenians. At least Israel’s acknowledgment would be truthful, which is more than I can say for anything that comes out of Erdogen’s mouth.

    • On 7/30/2019 Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan condemned Israel and its enabling allies over “state terror… in Palestine,” declaring “Whoever is on Israel’s side, let everyone know that we are against them.”

      Over the years, Erdogan has been a fierce critic of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government. What better time to stick it to the Turks and recognize the Armenian Genocide. Come on Bibi, time to do the right thing!!!!!!!!

  10. It is the zionist greed for money, nothing more:
    They deny the Armenian holocaust because they want to monopolize victim-hood and keep milking the Germans.
    They would lose their ties with Turkey if they recognized the Armenian holocaust which give them money all the time>

  11. This article is completely unfair, you are taking a simple word that was said, and you are deciding to go to great lengths to give it a meaning that goes against what you believe. And, using the labeling of the article you are shunning and labeling a whole nation. And, not only that but with this article you are adding to an already enourmous hate for the Jews. You are only giving reasons for anti-semitism to spread and you are blowing what was said out of proportion. And, this can be seen in the previous comments.

    • Excellent synopsis that is factually correct. Recently published data further supports Ms. Mikaelian’s premise that IT was indeed a genocide…..

      Letters referring to a decision to “annihilate” all Armenians are the authentic work of Bahaettin Shakir, one of the architects of the Armenian Genocide., according to signature analysis carried out by a leading Turkish historian, published in the Journal of Genocide Research.
      Prof. Taner Akçam of Clark University, Massachusetts, who has studied the genocide for decades, says the signatures on the two letters, dated 3 March and 7 April 1915, match those of Shakir on other documents.

      It appears that Tobias needs to go back to school and get an education. There is absolutely nothing anti-Semitic in her article. Below is the definition of anti-Semitism per the ADL.

      “The belief or behavior hostile toward Jews just because they are Jewish. It may take the form of religious teachings that proclaim the inferiority of Jews, for instance, or political efforts to isolate, oppress, or otherwise injure them. It may also include prejudiced or stereotyped views about Jews.”

      All she did was list facts, most of which were complementary to Jews (Morgenthau, Lemkin, and the ADL) regarding their recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Nowhere does Ms. Mikaelian label and shun the whole nation of Israel. In fact, she clearly compliments the Knesset for their 2016 affirmation and recognition of the “Armenian Holocaust” as a genocide.

      I support the author in her call for Israel to join the other twenty-eight countries and formally recognize the Armenian Genocide. Hopefully, she will write a follow-up article when this long overdue event finally happens.

  12. “In 2016, the Knesset, Israel’s Parliament, affirmed that it recognized the ‘Armenian Holocaust’ as a genocide.”

    Not true! It was only the Knesset Committee of Education, Culture, and Sports that happened to make an announcement (back in 2015) that it recognized the Armenian Genocide; however, the overall Knesset (Israeli Parliament) rejects any kind of recognition of the Armenian Genocide. I strongly urge the author of this article to carefully read the following two articles, published by the Armenian Weekly, back in 2018: (1) “Israeli Knesset Rejects Bill Recognizing the Armenian Genocide”; (2) “Israel Vote on Armenian Genocide Recognition Pulled from Knesset Agenda”.

    “Israel, a Jewish country, had its own genocide-the Holocaust.”

    The Jewish Holocaust did not take place in present-day Israel (Palestine); it took place in Europe. The Holocaust that’s been taking place in present-day Israel (Palestine) for the past 71 years, hasn’t been against the Jews; it’s been against the Palestinians.

    In regard to the author’s false statement about the Jewish Holocaust being “the second genocide of the twentieth century”, she left out the Assyrian Genocide, Greek Genocide and Herero-Namaqua Genocide, all three of which occurred in the 20th century, and before the Jewish Holocaust.

    As for the Anti-Defamation League (who pretends to be devoted to the human rights of all groups of people, but in reality, is devoted only to the Jewish people and the empowerment of Israel), it seems that the author of this article is not aware that the ADL, for so many years, had aggressively participated with other Jewish-American organizations in successfully preventing any kind of Armenian Genocide recognition by the U.S. government. The ADL, has only recently acknowledged the Armenian Genocide, because by not doing so, it made their “human rights organization” look extremely absurd. I would also urge the author of this article to read CK Garabed’s article about the ADL, which is titled, “Too Little, too Late”, published by the Armenian Weekly, back in 2016.

    On the subject of Henry Morgenthau, he had thoroughly described the genocide that was taking place against the Armenian population of the former Ottoman Turkish Empire; on the other hand, he had also urged businessmen to invest in the Ottoman Turkish Empire, back in early 1916. Furthermore, he had also attempted to arrange with the Ottoman Turks for a population swap, in which the remaining Armenians would be removed from the Western Armenian provinces, and relocated to Germany in exchange for the Jews replacing them in Western Armenia. If Henry Morgenthau had succeeded in accomplishing this, then as a result, the “homeland of the Jews” would’ve been established in the western part of the Armenian homeland, as opposed to being established years later in the Palestinian homeland.

  13. It appears that Yerevanian also needs to go back to back to school and get an education. lists genocides in the following order….

    The Holocaust-1933

    This is the most widely accepted order making Ms. Mikaelian’s statement factually correct.

    I believe the author was referring to the Knesset’s 16-0 vote approving a motion recognizing the Armenian Genocide in March of 2018. Nowhere does she say they voted to recognize the atrocities as genocide. Thereby, this article is again factually correct.

    The Merriam-Webster definition of THE HOLOCAUST is the mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War II. She used the phrase “the Holocaust” referring to the above-mentioned definition. While she could have phrased it better, this is another factually correct statement. I don’t know one person other than Yerevanian who would interpret this as meaning the author believed there was “a holocaust” of the Jews in Israel/Palestine.

    Yerevanian’s ramblings about the ADL and Morgenthau are nothing more than wasted words. The title of the article is “The Hypocrisy of Israel’s Denial of the Armenian Genocide”. His 2 paragraph rant at the end of his reply has nothing to do with the topic at hand!

  14. You give the impression of being the spokesperson of the author who wrote this article.

    Well, by deliberately leaving out the Assyrian, Greek and Herero-Namaqua Genocides, clearly shows that not only are you urgently in need of education, but in addition, it also clearly shows that you’re a genocide denialist.

    Since you’re not capable of reading simple English, I will therefore read to you what the author falsely wrote in regard to the Israeli Knesset: “In 2016, the Knesset, Israel’s Parliament, affirmed that it recognized the ‘Armenian Holocaust’ as a genocide”.

    By not being capable of reading those two articles that I listed up above, which clearly shows that the Israeli Knesset rejected a bill recognizing the Armenian Genocide, and that a vote on recognizing the Armenian Genocide was pulled from the agenda of the Knesset, again shows that you are urgently in need of education.

    You’re not even capable of using a dictionary properly. “The mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War 2”, isn’t the only definition of the word, “Holocaust”. There are other definitions for this particular word, including “a mass slaughter of people”, which is listed in the online Merriam-Webster dictionary; they even give an example sentence of “a holocaust in Rwanda”.

    Whether the author was attempting or not attempting to suggest that a genocide had taken place against the Jews on the soil of present-day Israel (Palestine), she nevertheless incorrectly wrote, “Israel, a Jewish country, had its own genocide-the Holocaust”. The correct phrase would’ve been, “The Jews had their own genocide” (or “their own holocaust”). Furthermore, she incorrectly wrote that “It was the second genocide of the twentieth century”. The Jewish Holocaust was the fifth genocide of the twentieth century.

    And since the author had spoken about the ADL and Henry Morgenthau in her article, therefore, my two paragraphs from my previous comment about the ADL and Henry Morgenthau had a lot to do with the topic at hand.

  15. Here is proof that I know how to use a dictionary and Yerevanian does not. Below I have pasted the definition from the Merriam-Webster dictionary. When the “H” in holocaust is capitalized it refers to the mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War II. When a lower case “h” is used it refers to a mass slaughter of people such as in Rwanda.

    usually the Holocaust : the mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War II
    Several members of her family died in the Holocaust.
    a Holocaust survivor
    : a mass slaughter of people
    especially: genocide
    a holocaust in Rwanda

    Yerevanian clearly states, “The mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War 2”, ISN’T THE ONLY definition of the word, “Holocaust”. By using an upper case “H” which he does, it refers ONLY to what happened to the Jews and other civilians during WWII.

    His lack of understanding of basic English grammar extends to his lack of understanding and misrepresentation of historical data. As I said earlier, he needs to go back to school and get an education. When and how to use capital letters is customarily taught in middle and high school; I would start there.

    If he does indeed respond to this reply with another rambling, inaccurate, off topic rant, he will be ignored.

  16. Your claim that the word, “holocaust”, is only capitalized in regard to the mass slaughter of European civilians and Jews by Nazis during World War 2 is false. It’s also capitalized when referring to the mass slaughter of Armenians (Armenian Holocaust), the mass slaughter of Rwandans (Rwandan Holocaust), or the mass slaughter of Palestinians (Palestinian Holocaust), etc.

    Anyway, if you respond to my reply, I’ll be happy to provide you with some further education.

  17. I’m only responding because you stayed on topic and didn’t ramble.

    However, your last post was grossly inaccurate. No where do I claim the word “holocaust” is only capitalized in regard to the mass slaughter of European civilians and Jews by the Nazis during WWII. You made that up in an attempt to cover up your lack of understanding of English grammar.

    What I did say exactly word for word is……..Yerevanian clearly states, “The mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War 2”, ISN’T THE ONLY definition of the word, “Holocaust”. By using an upper case “H” which he does, it refers ONLY to what happened to the Jews and other civilians during WWII.

    So to clarify, the ONLY DEFINITION of the STAND ALONE word, “Holocaust” using an upper case “H” refers ONLY to what happened to the Jews and other civilians during WWII. You chose to capitalize the “H” and put it in quotes referencing the STAND ALONE UPPER CASE word. Again, no where do I state the word holocaust can not be capitalized when used in conjunction with other words or when used in a title. For instance, the rules are fairly standard for title case: Capitalize the first and the last word, nouns, pronouns, adjectives, verbs, and adverbs. Only you would conclude the that I implied to not use an upper case “H” if the word “holocaust” was in a title.

    Had you not used an upper case “H” in your post on 7/30/2019 we wouldn’t be having this discussion. At least you corrected this in your 8/1/2019 post where you used a lower case “h” when referencing the word “holocaust”. Why did you make the change? You changed the case of the letter because you truly know I’m correct. If not, please clarify why you would change the case of the first letter of the same word that you placed in quotes in successive posts. Rather than thanking me for helping you improve your grammar you make a false accusation. Really pathetic and a sign of insecurity.

    Finally, please don’t interpret my response as a request for further education by you regarding any topic. That would be impossible.

  18. The error that I made, was from the comment of July 29th, where I wrote, “The Holocaust that’s been taking place in present-day Israel (Palestine)…” In that particular sentence, the word, “holocaust”, should not have been capitalized.

    Not only are you urgently in need of education, but in addition, you’re not even capable of comprehending what you write. In your comment from July 31, 2019 at 11:11 PM, you wrote, “When the ‘H’ in holocaust is capitalized it refers to the mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War 2”. And then in that same comment, you wrote, “By using an upper case ‘H’ which he does, it refers Only to what happened to the Jews and other civilians during WW2”.

    Therefore, I was very correct in saying, “Your claim that the word, ‘holocaust’, is only capitalized in regard to the mass slaughter of European civilians and Jews by Nazis during World War 2 is false”.

    As I correctly explained to you, “Holocaust”, isn’t only used in regard to the mass slaughter of European civilians and Jews during World War 2. This particular word, capitalized, is also used when referring to the mass slaughter of other groups of people, such as the Armenian Holocaust, Rwandan Holocaust, Palestinian Holocaust, etc. You are really pathetic in not being able to comprehend that “Holocaust” without the “The” in front of it, means the same exact thing as capitalizing the word, “holocaust”.

    Finally, do not interpret my responses as an attempt to go out of my way to provide you with education. Whether you wish to be educated or not, is entirely your problem. Furthermore, it was you who began this whole, entire stupid argument with me; therefore, it’s very necessary for me to debunk your false, foolish claims.

    • I thank all of you for your input it was so informative to read.keep up the great work…

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