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Professor Smith’s letter is generally welcome, of course.
Funny, I have yet to hear even one Armenian American academician criticize the Protocols to any appreciable degree, specifically the part about establishing a joint commission to decide whether “there was ever a genocide or whether, on the other hand, Armenians ever did naughty things to Turks and thus deserved to be massacred” (oh, excuse me – Armenia says that the commission will NOT be charged with doing THAT. Right. As if Armenia’s leaders words are suddenly to be trusted.)
Still, one can understand the silence of Armenian American academicians. Look, they’ll get to travel free of charge to wherever the “Joint Commission for the Study of the Genocide That Never Happened, and Even If It DidHappen, Present Day Turkey is Not Responsible” is going to meet, and get free food and lodging too. They’ll get to talk incessantly, and perhaps the Turkish genocide deniers on the commission will buy their books, autographed by the author, of course.
When entities in Armenia charged that Western academics, including Diasporan
Armenian ones, were following a narrative that did not recognize how truly
far back Armenian history went, the Diasporan Armenian academics were quick
to formulate a petition denouncing such charges. When a Turkish scholar
bought an old, rare Armenian book in Armenia and was prevented by customs
from removing it from the homeland, Diasporan Armenian academics were quick
to formulate a petition denouncing Armenia’s treatment of this Turkish
scholar. Now, when the Sargsyan and Erdogan administrations are putting the
Armenian Genocide itself put up for historical debate, where are these Diasporan
Armenian academics? Where is the denunciation? Where is the petition? Along
comes a group of Armenians who take it upon themselves to formulate a
petition and put it under the noses of Diasporan Armenian scholars for the
scholars to sign! Does this not seem backward to anyone? Is there anyone left
who thinks Diasporan Armenian scholarship (and Armenian academic
associations and institutes) are not controlled?
Harry…
I am afraid you are 100% correct… The more I hear and see how these protocols are handled and how our own government acts, I believe everything and most likely everyone is controlled by some sort of power…
It is just heart breaking to know that one own’s actions and words are controlled by filth, lies, and screcrecy…
Hope that God will punish those that are part of this…
G
These protocols are very dangerous, not only for the future of Armenia, but also for the present. With no insult to Pres. Serzh Sarkisian, these protocols are behind his comprehension. I see huge dangers for the nation and the continuation of Armenia’s existence. These protocols should have been studied by historians, political scientists, legal scholars, and other experts hired by Armenia. Armenia does not have the resources or the experience of handling such sophisticated protocols prepared by many political forces. These protocols are not just between Armenia and Turkey. I won’t be suprised if Turkey offers opening universities in Armenia to educate Armenians along with huge numbers of Turkish students. And they will offer many more. Turkey will have many ways of ending the existance of Armenia not far from the future.
THIS IS ANOTHER GENOCIDE AGAINST TRUE ARMENIANS AROUND THE WORLD, SPECIALLY DIASPORA THERE,
THIS IS ALERT! THIS IS WARNING! ” THERE IS NO ARMENIANS IN ARMENIA ”
THIS PEOPLE WILL SELL THIER DIGNITY AND FAMILY FOR DOLLAR,
DO NOT LET THIS SHAMEFUL ACT OF SELLING ARMENIA BY BUNCH OF IDIOTES HAPPEN YOU WILL REGRET LATER WHEN IS VERY LATE,
POPULATION IN ARMENIA IS CONSIDER ONLY IN YEREVAN,
I AM IN YEREVAN AT THE MOMENT AND ONLY VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE CARE WHAT IS HAPPENING AND THE ONE WHICH ARE ACTIVE THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEADGE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM AND POLOTICAL PARTIES ALL SILENTED AND HARDLY ANY ONE WANTS TO JOIN DASHNAKTSOUTION AND THEY ARE THE ONLY GROUP WHICH HAVE ORGNIZED DEMONSTRATIONS,
I WILL REPORT MORE LATER,
BUT PLEASE LET ALL YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO ORGNIZE DEMONSTRATIONS IN FRONT OF ALL USA, GB, FRANCE, ITALY, GERMANY, SWISS, UN, RUSSIAN EMBASSIES AND CONSULATES,
BY THIS THE ARMENIANS WILL LOSS THIER LEGAL RIGHTS ON OCCUPIED TERITORIES BY TURKY BASE ON SERVES TREATY AND WILLSONIAN ARMENIA BORDERS,
DO NOT LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU ARMENIANS IN DIASPORA
KHACHKAVOR GEVORG,
Yerevan – Armenia
Oct. 09, 2009 – 8:00 PM,
” THE ONLY TIME YOU and I AGREE TO OPEN THE BORDERS IS WHEN TURKY RECOGNIZEZ ARMENIA WITH PRESIDENT WILLSON’S DRAWN BORDERS AND ACCEPTING 1915 GENOCIDE OF ARMENIANS ”
GDG
“I am afraid you are 100% correct… The more I hear and see how these protocols are handled and how our own government acts, I believe everything and most likely everyone is controlled by some sort of power…” Gayane and Harry wrote.
Yeah, that power that keeps scholars from speaking out and young Armenians and actually people of any descent from rising up and becoming scholars in America is this (current) American life. It’s the way this system bogs people down, enslaves them and makes sure that they do nothing but work to pay bills and debts off. We, personally I, have stopped “living” and have turned into some machine that must only struggle to secure some future for myself and family. The current system seems to have a mandate of keeping its citizens so busy that they will not have time to think or congregate. And they lead us to believe that this is all an accident.
I suppose that readers of this comment who already don’t feel the way I do – my rant may appear to be just that – a rant but I truly believe that this singular focus on money and wealth which has consumed the world is going to ruin every positive thing in our lives. And, I definitely believe that this is something that a certain class of disrespectful, greedy people is forcing upon all of us.
I wish us all Good luck.
And again sorry for diverging off topic but I think that the root cause of the problems mentioned here is what I am talking about.
Caren…
You are definitely right on the dot… MONEY, POWER, WEALTH.. these are all that we strive for in this country.. I can’t stress enough how this propaganda machine pushes its citizens to work like slaves and think only about paying bills and debts… You are correct in saying that it can ruin what is good and positive in our lives.. However, that money and wealth if used in the right way can make things right and just.. Unfortunately, those who come upon this money, power and wealth by corruption and lies.. the foundation is never going to be honest, righteous and justifiable.. THe end outcome will be disaster.. the same disasterous situation we, our nation, our land, and our lives in.
You are absolutely correct Caren..
I appreciate the solidarity and just wish we had a solution. Actually, technology in the form of free or really cheap energy can help unshackle us somewhat. The prices of all goods are tied to energy since production, mining and even transportation are all “energy”. So if that is free prices would be tied to labor and IP and that would resemble a barter system much more which is a good thing I think. (Back to basics.) no more worries about oil or gas or air conditioning/heating, a very different life basically.
I am pleased the protocols have been signed. Of course, as the grandchild of Genocide survivors I want to see the genocide acknowledged but the welfare of the people of Armenia is paramount. Breaking the stranglehold around Armenia is an important contributor to the long-term viability of that country. I’m pleased our country (USA) played a major role in brokering these protocols that pave the way to an open border.
That’s it. Good bye dear Armenia.
Anyone who knows Turks can imagine the next 10 years. Turks will flood Armenia and take over everything. Because they are Turks and because history – yes, history! – has demonstrated over and over again, that nothing but guns – if at all – could stop Turks from spreading to every possible human habitat in the world.
I see a lot of criticism towards diaspora Armenians. But actually, same on you Yerevantsis! Why didn’t you folks go out in masses of hundreds of thousands and protested? Yap, always blame the diaspora, but in this case, the blame is to be borne by the Armenian Armenians. It is unbelievable how you don’t seem to care about anything else than money. Even the Dashnaktsutyun is a joke in Armenia.
Just to tell you: if the contrary happened in Turkey, the Turks would shoot Erdogan immediately.
Good bye, dear Armenia. All is lost now.
Don’t be so pessimistic Ardashir. For a small country we are tough and our brethren are spread all around the world watching very carefully.
Having the borders open doesn’t portend to absolute demise. Many countries that are not on good terms still maintain “open” borders. I think that these borders will mainly be used by our side and not so much their side and we have a lot more to gain from this than they do.
And let’s not forget that just as these borders were opened they can be shut again. And it isn’t exactly the open borders that critics have a problem with, it is the weak negotiations and other points of the deal.
Godspeed.
To Caren: I agree with you.. even though opening borders may be beneficial for the Armenians, the protocols are not strongly and confidently written and it could be closed anytime… however, these protocols that suppose to help Armenia, will not help Armenia in the long run.. not at all… and
To: Gary… if you think US helped these to help your ancestors and the future generation.. you are completly wrong.. US has nto done ANYTHING for nothing.. there is a gain for US for doing this.. They help those that will benefit them in the future.. They care less about Armenia.. Armenia is nothing to them.. so by acting like the peace loving, democratic beast is nothing but fake pretenses.. I despise that about this county.. they are all after their own gain.. regardless if the end result is destroying a nation and culture that were present for centuries.. by disrespecting all those who fight for what is right, and just.. unfortunately, US did nothing but helped the perpetrator to win this battle and use these protocols to win the WAR… trust me, Turkey will flood his roots into Armenia and will turqatsnel everything in our country.. That is exaclty what they wanted from the start..
G
Dear friends,
The only good is going to come out of the signing of the protocols is for the United States and its Allies. Mark my words; I give Armenia 10 years to start selling businesses in Armenia to our lifelong enemies (the Turks).
90% of all Armenians living in Armenia today they don’t care who is buying their factories and where is their food coming from. The country is already being sold to the highest bidder, watch and see what is going to happen once the border opens.
Imagine an Armenian going to work everyday in Armenia only to be getting a joke of a check from some firm whose headquarters are in Ankara.
Good Luck My fellow Armenians God bless us all.
TO: THOMAS.. I hate to say this but you are absolutely correct in saying that Armenia will no longer feel, taste, look and be Armenia in 10 years… It is unfortunate that our people living in Armenia dont’ care anymore.. THey are solid cold toward what happens to the country because they lost hope, their belief in their govt and the only thing on their mind is to feed their family with nothing money that they get from the govt. Their survival is the main priority and they will just go with the flow.. unfortunately we went with the flow for toooo long and that is why we are in this situation..bayts de inch karanq anenq? The govt dont’ respond to our pleas, they dont’ respond to the dissapproval of the things the govt does.. They basically treat us like nobodies..why? why such a non responsive attitude from our govt? There has to be a hidden agenda to all this. there has to be..I feel sick into my stomach when I remember what just happened and what will happen..
God be with us.. and God knows that I will fight until the end.. no matter what.. and hope our people will do too.. DON”T GIVE UP..
G